.22 LR ammo and guns are very picky.

.22LR in general is f***ing shitty and overrated.

Fun? Sure but way overrated for training.
 
Hetzer said:
I don’t know why but I love that Remington Thunderbolt. Maybe it’s because people say it’s cheap and it sucks but it works just fine in any of the Mark IV’s that I’ve owned.

My only problem with it is finding it on the north shore and southern nh.

Other than that CCI standard, Mini Mags and even Quiet Semi-Auto are my go to’s.
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Surely you jest ! My experiences shooting Thunder-terds is filthy carbon buildup (worse than typical 22rf), very poor consistency, random loosely seated bullets.
 
rogersmithiii said:
I co-taught an introduction to handgun class for a group of newbie women this past month.
One lady showed up with a nearly new, Walther P22 Q CA pistol, and fed it with Winchester Wildcat .22s.
From the start of the class, the gun started having problems. Failure to drive the slide back far enough to pick up the new round out of the mag. Stove pipes. Failure to extract empty case from the chamber. By the afternoon, the gun turned into a single shot gun, with the student having to rack the slide manually to reload it.

We handed her a class, Taurus T-22, and that gun started having problems. I grabbed both guns from the student, and put rounds downrange. It wasn't the student. Both guns malfunctioned in my hands.
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IME, any "fresh out of the box" 22 handgun or rifle, after a quick cleaning, will reliably cycle CCI Mini-Mags.
PatMcD said:
drgrant said:
.22LR in general is f***ing shitty and overrated.
Fun? Sure but way overrated for training.
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I couldn't disagree more with that statement.
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Definitely not "great" training, but 22LR is cheap & accessible for familiarization. Enough recoil to be somewhat realistic, without being so harsh as to develop a flinch.
 
Kevin_NH said:
IME, any "fresh out of the box" 22 handgun or rifle, after a quick cleaning, will reliably cycle CCI Mini-Mags.

Definitely not "great" training, but 22LR is cheap accessible for familiarization. Enough recoil to be somewhat realistic, without enough to lead new shooters to develop a flinch.
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And it's really good at catching potential flinching when it doesn't f***ing fire half the time. 🤣 I guess if you're training people how to deal with malfunctions.
 
PatMcD said:
I couldn't disagree more with that statement.
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Yes and this is the part of the thread while everybody will tell me that their 22 works perfectly and it's not a huge distraction while trying to train other things....🤣
 
I’ll third? The SR22. Far more fun and reliable to shoot than a MKIV. It’s oddly loud for a .22 as well. Because I’m a poor I have lots of random .22. The SR22 eats everything. I even made torture mags to try to get it to stumble. Remington quiet, Aguila Super extra, CCI SV, mini mags, Federal target, stingers, federal punch, probably something else, I don’t know. Golden turds? Ran a few of those through and not so much as a hiccup. It’s a mag dump machine. Screw training, .22 is cheap fun.
 
LTCRN said:
I have found that It is trial and error with .22 LR pistols. Not enough lubrication, to much lubrication, not enough powder to cycle the slide, the pistol became to dirty etc.
The exception was the POS Walther P22 that I bought as a newbie. It would malfunction no matter what alternatives or corrective measures I took. I was lucky enough that it didn't blow up or break apart like some of the video's on YT show. I replaced it with a practically mint used Ruger MK II. It is not perfect, but it is much, much better than the P22 or the Sig Mosquito that was available at the time. Today, I would probably buy a MK IV, SR 22, or 22/45 for a semi auto .22.
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I have an SR22 and I really like it's a fun plinking pistol but it's also very picky about what ammo it wants. If I buy the more expensive ammo I can send round after round down range. But if I use the bucket o' bullets ammo, I might be lucky to hit 3 or 4 shots before I hit a jam.
 
VetteGirlMA said:
I have an SR22 and I really like it's a fun plinking pistol but it's also very picky about what ammo it wants. If I buy the more expensive ammo I can send round after round down range. But if I use the bucket o' bullets ammo, I might be lucky to hit 3 or 4 shots before I hit a jam.
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I changed the guide rod to stainless when I bought it and has been 100% in a few thousand rounds so far
 
Thunderbolt is only slightly less shitty than Wildcat. That stuff is absolute trash. Expecting anything from them is futile.

Even white-box is slightly better.

I don't buy anything other than Aguilla for the rifles (because I won't run it in the pistols) and CCI.
I buy cases of CCI and run it exclusively in my pistols. Stingers or others in the Rugers, Standard velocity in my High-Standards and S&W Model 41.

As others have said, .22's are finicky and each one "likes" different fodder. You have to experiment to see what they like.
 
mikelawtown said:
I changed the guide rod to stainless when I bought it and has been 100% in a few thousand rounds so far
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I had a problem with my SR22, to the point it wouldnt cycle Mini-Mags.

I sent it back to Ruger, a week later it was back and runs everything reliably except Federal. I added the Tandemkross stainless guide rod, still wouldnt cycle that Federal crap...so I donated the rest to a friend with a bolt action

I have a good supply of Golden Bullets, Mini-Mags and CCI Tactical AR at the moment, but going forward it will just be Mini-Mags and Tactical.....they just work
 
Tim_McD said:
I had a problem with my SR22, to the point it wouldnt cycle Mini-Mags.

I sent it back to Ruger, a week later it was back and runs everything reliably except Federal. I added the Tandemkross stainless guide rod, still wouldnt cycle that Federal crap...so I donated the rest to a friend with a bolt action

I have a good supply of Golden Bullets, Mini-Mags and CCI Tactical AR at the moment, but going forward it will just be Mini-Mags and Tactical.....they just work
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Mine runs Federal bulk and even Winchester 333/555 bulk just fine.
I use a ton of Fed Automatch 325 bulk
 
VetteGirlMA said:
I have an SR22 and I really like it's a fun plinking pistol but it's also very picky about what ammo it wants. If I buy the more expensive ammo I can send round after round down range. But if I use the bucket o' bullets ammo, I might be lucky to hit 3 or 4 shots before I hit a jam.
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Look at the slide and see if there is a pin on the underside where the slide lock is. Mine would run like what you’re describing and I sent it back to Ruger and that’s how they fixed it. I don’t know if that pin is on all new ones now or maybe when my slide was built the slide lock slot was machined in the wrong place.
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drgrant said:
I think it's because I actually bought a G44 and an Ruger mkiv during covid.
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I just picked up a G44….as a G19 owner it’s fun to own….so far it’s run fine….going to order one of those hi cap pro mags. Also got a threaded barrel…waiting on ATF approval for a can. Move to NH….if I can escape northern Worcester county you can too 😁🍻
 
typically whenever I start observing cycling issues i'ts almost always a sign I need to get off my lazy a$$ and clean the firearm (focusing on the extractor hook). Shooting subs suppressed is just a huge amount of carbon filth that accumulates VERY quickly from blowback.
 
Happy Labor Day!
Just ordered a box of CCI 22lr Standard with free shipping and a McFadden Lightnin' Grip Loader with an M&P 15-22 adapter. I just recently learned about this loader and it looks cool, it's made in the US by a small company, and I have in-laws that live in that town!
 
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