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21 killed, 18 injured in shooting at elementary school in Uvalde, Texas

Boys without fathers, effeminate male teachers or no male teachers in the school system. Liberal, homosexual curriculum run by the Teachers Union stooges that brainwash boys and try to destroy their masculinity. Remember the book, "The War on Boys" by Christina Hoff Sommers, she detailed the lefts assault on boys in the public schools.
Spot on
 
From Katherine Clark, 5th district MA.

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In the last 10 days, we have experienced 3 horrific mass shootings in this country – targeting children in their elementary school, Black citizens grocery shopping, and people attending a church service. I’m furious, I’m heartbroken, but we are not powerless.

The House already passed wildly popular legislation
to institute violent history checks, close the loophole that allows guns to be sold at gun shows without background checks, and close the "Charleston loophole" to give the FBI more time on background checks.

Reasonable people, including responsible gun owners, agree on the commonsense steps we can take to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. In fact, 83% of gun owners and 74% of Republican voters support background checks on all gun purchases.

But Republicans in Congress have become the most extreme fringe of their party, who believe children murdered at school, elders murdered at a grocery store, and worshippers murdered at church is preferable to universal background checks or Red Flag laws.

Guns are the leading cause of death for children and teens in America, killing more kids than cancer, pneumonia, influenza, asthma, AIDS, and opioids COMBINED. To my Republican colleagues, I ask that if you won’t do anything - literally anything - to stop the slaughter of children in school, then why are you even in Congress?

It doesn’t have to be this way. We have the power to save lives — the House already passed the Bipartisan Background Checks Act and the Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021. If the GOP refuses to do the bare minimum to keep our families safe, they don't deserve to serve — it’s a dereliction of duty.

The time for excuses is over. I will not give up this fight.

Sincerely,

Congresswoman Katherine Clark
Assistant Speaker of the House of Representatives


Dems doing the full-court press ...

The problem is that we don't agree on "commonsense steps". Every single time some gungrabber says "commonsense gun laws" I cover my ass because I know they're about to try to f*** me.
 
With all this talk about new laws how about the government actually do something. Here are my thoughts.
The fed should require every school have the following:
  • A buzzer lock for the front entrance and other points of entry have to be locked at all times. Fake the fines hurt if you accidentally leave a door open.
  • Harden all points of entry so someone can’t shoot or drive their way in.
  • Locking doors to classrooms and harden those doors so someone can shoot or force their way in.
  • Remove the firearms prohibition around schools.
The government should pay for the whole thing. If we can give $40 billion to the Ukraine they can do this. My 2c
The building was cinder block construction with steel doors.
He was contained to one classroom, in which he murdered everyone
 
The problem is that we don't agree on "commonsense steps". Every single time some gungrabber says "commonsense gun laws" I cover my ass because I know they're about to try to f*** me.

I can be reasonable. I think it makes common sense that deranged individuals probably shouldn't be able to buy an antiaircraft gun.

Wait, what? That's been illegal since 1934? Oh. Never mind.


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Clark has ambitions to be Pelosi 2.0. I never hear anything from her that is remotely centrist or balanced. She never deviates from the party line. It's all straight DNC dogma, no exceptions.

I'm not sure about the percentages. What percentage of gun owners buy guns face-to-face in-state without going through an FFL? I don't think it can be a very large percentage, so I wouldn't be surprised if she has the numbers right. But what percentage of these events involves a gun that was obtained legally but without a NICS check? Probably there's one somewhere back there, but I can't remember it. No surprise there, of course. They're just politicizing a tragedy to move their agenda forward, as expected.

What percentage of gun owners buy guns face-to-face in-state without going through an FFL? I don't think it can be a very large percentage, so I wouldn't be surprised if she has the numbers right.

I think you're looking at this through the Massachusetts looking glass. In Georgia you don't need a permit to buy a gun, either from another individual or from an FFL. If you buy it from an FFL, they'll do a 4473; if private sale there doesn't have to be any paperwork.

IOW - with a permit, I walk into a store, fill out a 4473 and take the gun home.
Without a permit, I walk into a store, fill out a 4473, go through a NICS check, and take the gun home.
With or without a permit, I can have a firearm in my home or in my vehicle.
With or without a permit, I can buy/sell firearms from/to another individual without any paperwork.

The last gun I sold was a cash deal on a handshake, that was a PCC. My wife sold two of her handguns to friends of hers who wanted guns. I took them to the range and spent some time with them teaching them fundamentals. No paperwork involved.

New England is pretty restrictive. And the politicians up here would like to extend that to the rest of the country.
 
What percentage of gun owners buy guns face-to-face in-state without going through an FFL? I don't think it can be a very large percentage, so I wouldn't be surprised if she has the numbers right.

I think you're looking at this through the Massachusetts looking glass. In Georgia you don't need a permit to buy a gun, either from another individual or from an FFL. If you buy it from an FFL, they'll do a 4473; if private sale there doesn't have to be any paperwork.

IOW - with a permit, I walk into a store, fill out a 4473 and take the gun home.
Without a permit, I walk into a store, fill out a 4473, go through a NICS check, and take the gun home.
With or without a permit, I can have a firearm in my home or in my vehicle.
With or without a permit, I can buy/sell firearms from/to another individual without any paperwork.

The last gun I sold was a cash deal on a handshake, that was a PCC. My wife sold two of her handguns to friends of hers who wanted guns. I took them to the range and spent some time with them teaching them fundamentals. No paperwork involved.

New England is pretty restrictive. And the politicians up here would like to extend that to the rest of the country.
Sounds like NH.
 
Right now, Americans do not care about gun control. Only the most devout liberal does. Right now I'm American care about the price of gas oh, the price of groceries oh, and the price of living day to day.

Of the dems want to focus on abortion and gun control, they're doing the Rs a huge favor.
Of course all those .Gov issues are to distract you from the REAL issues you mentioned.
I see Americans fed up with the Bull shit actually.
 
When?

They told him to leave. He left. Nobody's peace was disturbed.

I don't like O'Rourke either, but I like statism even less. Free speech is free speech. The man's got a right to air his stupid views.

Sure he does......when he's recognized at the appropriate time just like everyone else present. But being the arrogant a$$hole that he is, he deliberately interrupted the scene without being recognized, and long before the floor was open to questions or comments from the audience.

The peace of that meeting was most certainly disturbed and had it been you, me or any other regular joe off the street, we'd have been cuffed and stuffed and charged at a minimum with disturbing the peace.
 
I would add to that list, “What was this kid’s gun training?” As any trained weapons expert can attest to, it would take a tremendous amount of skill to KILL 15+ people in a short period of time. Many people survive gunshots… unless lethal areas are hit. Pretty “talented” 18- year old to be able to inflict 15+ lethal wounds in a row.
Yeah must be tough executing a bunch of cowering 4th graders at point blank range. I personally qualified expert at this stage in the military.

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When?

They told him to leave. He left. Nobody's peace was disturbed.

I don't like O'Rourke either, but I like statism even less. Free speech is free speech. The man's got a right to air his stupid views.
There is a time and a place for everything and whether he had a right to look like an A$$hole or not but this wasn't the moment. Some people have skewed views on etiquette it's seems to be a problem even here on NES.
 
Sure he does......when he's recognized at the appropriate time just like everyone else present. But being the arrogant a$$hole that he is, he deliberately interrupted the scene without being recognized, and long before the floor was open to questions or comments from the audience.

The peace of that meeting was most certainly disturbed and had it been you, me or any other regular joe off the street, we'd have been cuffed and stuffed and charged at a minimum with disturbing the peace.

I doubt it, but we'll never know. I think anyone who'd interrupted that particular briefing, the day after such a horrific event, would have been cut loose if he'd have left without violence.

The optics of "arresting an anguished citizen in the aftermath of a tragedy" would have been bad for Abbott, no matter who the citizen was. Let alone his gubernatorial opponent. This got handled the right way.
 
There is a time and a place for everything and whether he had a right to look like an A$$hole or not but this wasn't the moment. Some people have skewed views on etiquette it's seems to be a problem even here on NES.

Yeah, I agree: he shouldn't have done it, and I wouldn't have done it. But I didn't see anything unlawful there, and that's what arrests are for.

Reread my post. I'm not supporting O'Rourke. I'm just supporting statism even less.
 
The next time somebody like Biden or Beta ORourke start opening their yap about the school shooting - just post this pic into their Twitter feed:

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Yeah, I agree: he shouldn't have done it, and I wouldn't have done it. But I didn't see anything unlawful there, and that's what arrests are for.

Reread my post. I'm not supporting O'Rourke. I'm just supporting statism even less.
@Picton I do like you but I think at some point, regardless of god given rights, sometimes there are moments where silence shows your true worth this was one for Beto it shows his complete disregard.
 
I'd have to do some actual 'research' on posters here, but at least one person posts early on in these threads "FBI FALSE FLAG". No, not everything is a false flag, and being Chicken Little is counterproductive for when it actually IS a false flag. Alex Jones was generally correct in a lot of his reporting, but his antics takes away from the legitimacy of his reporting.

There is a game called 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon for a reason. You can make links to anything if you are creative enough.
When you can call it within a week of it happening there is something to it.
Last week there was a few of us calling it dead nuts on.
I'm sure as hell no Miss Cleo , but damn man the pattern is so in your face it's not funny.
Things going to shit for the Dems ? Cue up another mass shooting , and boom there you have it.
It would be almost amusing if it weren't for people burying their babies.
 
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@Picton I do like you but I think at some point, regardless of god given rights, sometimes there are moments where silence shows your true worth this was one for Beto it shows his complete disregard.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you.

I assume the voters of Texas won't be disagreeing with you either, and will fail to elect him. That's precisely the right remedy here.

If the alternative is unlawfully arresting him, only to have the arrest rightly overturned in court, thus giving O'Rourke legitimate ammo against Abbott? I don't see how that's desirable, either constitutionally or politcally.

Sadly, bad manners aren't against the law.
 
Again, I'm not disagreeing with you.

I assume the voters of Texas won't be disagreeing with you either, and will fail to elect him. That's precisely the right remedy here.

If the alternative is unlawfully arresting him, only to have the arrest rightly overturned in court, thus giving O'Rourke legitimate ammo against Abbott? I don't see how that's desirable, either constitutionally or politcally.

Sadly, bad manners aren't against the law.
I never said he should be arrested nor do I believe he should have been but escorting him out nicely is/was the proper way to handle it.
 
I think we should just carry on business as usual and not turn our schools into prisons. There are 50 million students in the US. Taking away everyone's rights
to ineffectively stop a one in a million event is how we get gun control in the first place.
Wait. You were ok with it with covid bullshit though?!?!? You are a POS hypocrite.
 
I doubt it, but we'll never know. I think anyone who'd interrupted that particular briefing, the day after such a horrific event, would have been cut loose if he'd have left without violence.

The optics of "arresting an anguished citizen in the aftermath of a tragedy" would have been bad for Abbott, no matter who the citizen was. Let alone his gubernatorial opponent. This got handled the right way.

Yes, Beto is running for governor against Abbott and is not an "anguished citizen" he's a politically conniving, grandstanding A$$HOLE who knew exactly what he was doing and will play this up every time he gets a camera and microphone shoved in his face from now until election day this fall.
His outright arrogance and lack of ability to control his emotional side makes him exactly the type of person that should never hold political office.

I'll bet that Beto will lose because of this incident, especially if he clubs the public to death with it for the next six months.

EDIT: Even AP headlines Beto's actions as a disruption.

 
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Boys without fathers, effeminate male teachers or no male teachers in the school system. Liberal, homosexual curriculum run by the Teachers Union stooges that brainwash boys and try to destroy their masculinity. Remember the book, "The War on Boys" by Christina Hoff Sommers, she detailed the lefts assault on boys in the public schools.

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