Mark from MA
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I think you're taking it personally bro. Like you said, just an opinion. But the fact that you feel like you need to defend baiting kind of tells me that deep down you feel that asterisk too. But it's all good. Like you said - just my opinion. If it's legal where you're at - have at it.
That said if it is your impression that there aren't deer in MA, I have to strongly disagree. There's a reason the state extended the season an additional 2 weeks this year for most of the zones in the state. We have a lot of deer here. Too many in fact. Maybe not the coveted big boys that roam Iowa, but we have a lot of deer here. Now maybe you have to travel to a different zone, but a blanket comment about the entire state is just, well, factually wrong. That's what the state's wildlife biologist responsible for managing and monitoring the herd say on the matter anyway. Not trying to offend bro, just stating the facts.
IDK why you went on about access, land, etc. Every hunter faces those challenges. My comments strictly revolved around bait and high fence. Hey if you like that stuff - more power too you. It's not like it makes you a bad person. But people who "hunt" like that are a rung below those who do not in my eyes. Don't really care if that opinion is shared by others or not. In my eyes - that's how it is. I don't consider it "hunting" so much as maybe "harvesting" would be a more appropriate word. There's no semblance of fair chase involved in bait or high fence. Really no pursuit or chase at all.
Not really taking it personally, I know it's your opinion, and on high fence deer I agree with you 100%. I feel on high fence, judgements can be made as it's NOT fair chase. Ive done that as well, its is NOT hunting, did a boar hunt that way, it was the closest and cheapest way to do it, and I had a lot of fun with a bunch of guys. Not hunting 100% agree.
Other than that, I feel it's just best keep your opinions and asterisks to yourself. Because some guy that hunts thousands of acres in Northern Maine, tracking down deer, can easily say your buck, shot in a RI or MA 150 acre woodlot is a joke. Can't he? I mean, he's a woodsman finding a deer in an area that has 1 deer per square mile, navigating himself by compass. You are sitting in a tree, in an area with 20 deer per square mile, sitting 1/4 mile from a mall or a major highway....... Now your deer gets an asterisk in his opinion.
So where do we draw the line? Is a deer taken with a gun less than a deer taken with a bow? How about taking a deer driving deer? Does that get an asterisk? So on and so on. Honestly, I try not to judge, I've seen and done all sorts of hunting, and I feel it becomes somewhat elitist to judge, and there are so many methods and its so different throughout New England, whose right and whose wrong?
I also don't think you've done any baiting, because it's no magical potion, again, if your sitting an acorn ridge, apple tree, corn field, or using any food source to get a deer over your baiting or taking deer with aid of bait IMHO. Ill state this again, my biggest bucks have come from travel routes in areas where they are looking for does. Not over a bait pile. Not being able to bait means nothing to me.....I could care less. Hunting CT during the rut, I don't bait, its a waste of time and money because I don't sit on it....because it doesn't draw big bucks. In September, when does are hungry and I want to put meat in the freezer, sure I'll use the corn pile and whack and stack a few and be done with it.
MA has a shit ton of deer in the East on small woodlots........I was wrong there by saying the whole state. That is NOT true. MA's problem is the setbacks that don't allow hunting in those areas, towns that are closed, etc.
Kinda why I ignore MA when it comes to "lots" of deer and go to other states.
Other states are much more hunter friendly than dealing with MA idiot liberals.
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