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2020 Democratic Party Platform Declares Total War on Second Amendment Rights


The comments on an article in Volokh Conspiracy wrt PLCAA - the law preventing frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers and seller - are actually useful this time. Yesterday, there was a legal webinar on the PLCAA that was characterized by one comment or as an organizational and educational course on how to litigate against gun manufacturers and sellers - how to sneak around the PLCAA law, like the Newtown/Remington lawsuit.

The notion that gun manufacturers who just dump million of guns on the street should be liable for negligence lawsuits is the position gun control advocates like to spread. Commenters respond that ALL guns made and sold to the civilian populous are sold by regulated FFLs but challengers consider them complicit in the negligence.

Can you sue GM if a licensed driver runs over your kid with a registered car? Of course not. But it’s what people will believe and accept that drives the issue. CDC’s Top 20 causes of death/injury by state list only 17 causes for NH - with firearms and machinery almost tied for last place. Lawncare machinery and guns just as dangerous - who’d of thunk it? Both have safety features, labeling (warnings engraved on guns) and instruction manuals with pp 1-10 all legal warnings and pp 11-12 on how to operate the gun or machinery.

Yet people are worried that I’m shooting a silenced 22lr rifle 1/4mi away from our neighborhood or that there are tree stands & hunters 1/3mi away. What if an errant shot goes off? But their small children ride bikes and scooters on our neighborhood streets where they could be run down or bash their heads on granite - we have granite everything here. And go home where toxic pesticides, herbicides and cleaners are kept just our of easy reach. Pools to drown in, sleds to ride on and bash their heads into granite - did I say we have granite everywhere in NH?

So, it’s the acceptance and perception of risk and liability that drives people’s thinking. If you don’t like guns, gun manufacturers with deep pockets should pay if a COVID-released criminal shoots somebody with a gun stolen and bought on the streets.

Silly man! Cars and lawnmowers have a legitimate purpose. Guns are for killing. That's the difference- duh!

That's how they think, and a common response to your logic. Funny how if guns are only to kill, they are no more deadly than lawn equipment and less deadly than cars- according to the stats.
 
Silly man! Cars and lawnmowers have a legitimate purpose. Guns are for killing. That's the difference- duh!

That's how they think, and a common response to your logic. Funny how if guns are only to kill, they are no more deadly than lawn equipment and less deadly than cars- according to the stats.


If the only purpose of guns is to kill, then guns *must* be defective if there are 244 million guns and only 40000 firearms deaths per year. I might sue all the firearms manufacturers for making products that work only 0.02% of the time. For the price I pay for guns and ammo, is it too much to ask for a few dead bodies?
 
If the only purpose of guns is to kill, then guns *must* be defective if there are 244 million guns and only 40000 firearms deaths per year. I might sue all the firearms manufacturers for making products that work only 0.02% of the time. For the price I pay for guns and ammo, is it too much to ask for a few dead bodies?

Pro tip:

Need bodies? Buy an old Ford Pinto.
 
2020 Democratic Party Platform Declares Total War on Second Amendment Rights

AUGUST 3, 2020

NRA-ILA | 2020 Democratic Party Platform Declares Total War on Second Amendment Rights

The national Democratic Party is no longer making any attempt to hide their antipathy towards guns and gun owners. Where once the party attempted to tailor their anti-gun messaging to appear moderate and appeal to some gun owners, the draft 2020 Democratic Party Platform contains a full-throated assault on firearms ownership and a blueprint for undermining every aspect of Second Amendment rights. Viewed in historical context, the draft 2020 Democratic Party Platform is the most anti-gun the party has ever put forward.

Released July 21, the draft platform contains the following passage:

Democrats will enact universal background checks, end online sales of guns and ammunition, close dangerous loopholes that currently allow stalkers and some individuals convicted of assault or battery to buy and possess firearms, and adequately fund the federal background check system. We will close the “Charleston loophole” and prevent individuals who have been convicted of hate crimes from possessing firearms. Democrats will ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We will incentivize states to enact licensing requirements for owning firearms and “red flag” laws that allow courts to temporarily remove guns from the possession of those who are a danger to themselves or others. We will pass legislation requiring that guns be safely stored in homes. And Democrats believe that gun companies should be held responsible for their products, just like any other business, and will prioritize repealing the law that shields gun manufacturers from civil liability.

The proposals include so-called “universal” background checks, the elimination of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System’s three-day safety -valve provision, and gun owner licensing, which would turn the right to keep and bear arms into a privilege dependent on the whim of government bureaucrats. The Democrats would empower government intrusions into the home to dictate how Americans keep and store firearms for self-defense and to confiscate firearms without due process based on the flimsiest of evidentiary standards. Moreover, the draft platform calls for a ban on commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms and their magazines, something explicitly prohibited under the U.S. Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Second Amendment in District of Columbia v. Heller.

Another portion of the platform states, “Democrats will also ensure the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have sufficient resources to study gun violence as a public health issue.” At a time when the politically-biased Centers for Disease Control has come under severe criticism for its response to an actual communicable disease, the national Democratic Party platform would further distract the agency from its core mission by turning it back into a taxpayer-funded gun control factoid factory.

The gun control section of the draft 2020 Democratic platform is an escalation of the anti-gun position put forward in the 2016 platform, adding and expounding upon the positions in the earlier document. Both are notable for what they omit. Neither recognizes that Americans have a Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms

With the nomination of Clinton in 2016, the pretense that the national Democratic Party would respect Second Amendment rights was no longer tenable.

During the campaign, Clinton repeatedly attacked the individual right to keep and bear arms. She even attacked the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Heller, which recognized the individual right to arms. Clinton told the audience at a September 2015 fundraiser in New York City “the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get.” At a separate event in Connecticut, the former senator called Heller “a terrible decision.” When asked by ABC’s George Stephanopolous to clarify her position on the Second Amendment, the former first lady refused to acknowledge that it protects an individual right.

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s persistent attacks on gun owners also make platform language in support of the Second Amendment indefensible.

The career politician has endorsed the confiscation of commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms. Biden had the following exchange with CNN’s Anderson Cooper when asked about firearm confiscation during an August 5, 2019 interview:

Cooper: So, to gun owners out there who say well a Biden administration means they are going to come for my guns.

Biden: Bingo! You’re right if you have an assault weapon.


Further, while attending a private $500 a person fundraiser in November, Biden revealed his intent to ban 9mm pistols. According to an article from the Seattle Times, while at the soiree, the 77-year-old posited to attendees “Why should we allow people to have military-style weapons including pistols with 9mm bullets and can hold 10 or more rounds?”

The U.S. Supreme Court has made clear that the Second Amendment prohibits the gun bans Biden advocates.

In Heller, the Court concluded that the types of firearms protected by the Second Amendment include those “in common use at the time” for “lawful purposes like self-defense.” The AR-15, which Biden has made clear he seeks to ban, is the most popular rifle in America and therefore undoubtedly “in common use” and protected by the Second Amendment. Similarly, industry data shows that 9mm pistols are the most common type of pistol produced.

In 2015, Heller decision author Justice Antonin Scalia reiterated that the Second Amendment and Heller preclude so-called “assault weapons” bans when he signed onto a dissent from the denial of certiorari in Friedman v. Highland Park. In the dissent, Justice Clarence Thomas explained,

Roughly five million Americans own AR-style semiautomatic rifles [with many millions more owning them in 2020]. The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting. Under our precedents, that is all that is needed for citizens to have a right under the Second Amendment to keep such weapons.

The gun control section of the draft 2020 Democratic Party Platform is a perfect fit for the party’s presumptive presidential nominee. Both the platform drafters and the former vice president have put forward a radical gun control agenda that would further burden every aspect of gun ownership. Above all, both have exhibited a complete disregard for the Second Amendment.

They better be ready to accept responsibility for the body count of their supporters because they will be 100% responsible for every single one of them.
 
They better be ready to accept responsibility for the body count of their supporters because they will be 100% responsible for every single one of them.


Name one time Democrats have been accountable or taken responsibility for their actions. The default position for the failed policies of the Democrat Party is it's someone else's fault i.e Republicans, Trump.....
 
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