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2008 Honda Pilot drivers seat woes...

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by napoleon1815, Jun 22, 2019.

  1. napoleon1815

    napoleon1815 NES Member

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    Hey all,

    I have a 2008 Honda Pilot (manual seats, not power) with a drivers seat issue. Something snapped so now that back part of the seat doesn't stay in it's gear...so while you are driving the back part of the seat goes back and forth as you brake and accelerate and leans pretty far back now. I took the bottom panel off the seat and everything looks OK...nothing obviously broken...but since this is my first time doing this I have no idea. Everything I look online defaults to power seats, which we don't have. Any clues?
     

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    I would be looking for a broken weld, based on your description.
     
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  3. napoleon1815

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    I can look again. It would help if I could see how it's "suppose" to work to have a baseline to compare the current state to.
     
  4. whatluck

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    Common problem with the pilot. Driver's side seat bracket has cracked, dealers are raping people, what else is new. Gotta take the seat out hand bring it to a welder.

    Driver seat broken
     
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    The latch must be spring loaded.
    Check the spring on that mechanism.
     
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    Hard to say without looking at it. Probably the plate that mounts to the seat riser has a bracket sheared off, the brackets are too thin. Good thing they failed the way they did, and not in an accident!
     
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  9. napoleon1815

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    Spanz NES Member

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    i would also be looking for a used one at a junk yard.
    Check FIRST to make sure there are no side airbags in it....before screwing with it too much.
     
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    Start here...

    Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market

    OP might luck out and find one that matches the interior/passenger seat.

    As far as the airbags go... I think they're only a problem if they have juice going to them.

    Some junkyards might have already removed them for their resale value.
     
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    I had a similar issue with a 2000 Accord. Turns out a rd had broken free under the seat. Since I was a poor college kid, I was able to use one of those 12 inch landscaping nails to replace it and no more problem.

    Your best bet to see the issue is to have someone else sit in the car and rock the seat while you look underneath to see what’s not connected.
     
  13. napoleon1815

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    OK I found the issue...now I need to know if it's fixable or requires a new seat. See photo. Basically the gear (which at first glance looks impossible to get out) is half stripped. The stripped part is where we want it to go (in the pic, this is the top half). The bottom half of the gear has the threads fine.

    gear.jpg
     
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    Switch the seat to passenger side.
     
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    I’m in Townsend. If that helps.
    If you need the pawl welded bring it by.
    Bring the whole seat and I’ll reinforce
    the mechanism while I’m in there.
     
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    I thought about that but the dials to adjust the seat would be on opposite sides and not work as they will be up against the center console.
     
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    Treat it like a racing seat. Adjust it to your liking, then put it in and smile knowing no one can change it.
     
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    If you cannot get the gear out, then you gotta replace the seat. If you can get the gear out, look to see if you can flip it over and reinstall putting the chewed portion at the bottom where it's not used. Regardless, you're going to have to pull the seat out.
     
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    It might be normal for that gear to be cut on only one half. Your seat doesnt normally rotate 360 degrees does it?
     
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    i was wondering...if you took a dremel tool and a small carborundum disk...could you recut the gear teeth where they are ground down? May save you from a ton of dissassembly woes.....

    You might have to put a small sheet of steel against the vinyl so it does not get cut up when doing it.
     
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    Welding will require you to strip the seat cover and foam innards I would bet. Call Linders and see if they have one. Pick and pull.
     
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    The problem with this type of mechanism is that most people tend to move the seat and use the lever as a brake. The metal is made from recycled Chevrolets so it can't take the abuse therefore strips out. And vertically challenged folk are rough on them.
     
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    [laugh2] [rofl]
     
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    yeah, "pot metal"

    :(
     
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    The problem with the junkyard route is that everyone else is looking for them too. The salvaged ones you get are going to be the same junk.
     
  26. napoleon1815

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    Just an update...took the Pilot to two different places this morning. Dealer said I need the "driver seat recliner assembly" which is $1,286 and another $363 to install. That won't be happening. The mom and pop shop I usually use more or less told me to go to a junk yard or check out some Honda forums and ask around.
     
  27. napoleon1815

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    Picked up an entire seat for $75 at a place on the south shore. Should be here Wednesday. Hoping I can swap out the whole bottom assembly so I can keep my actual seat...otherwise the seats won't match in color but not a big deal.
     
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    2008? Probably time to trade it in anyway. Most cars don t last more than 10 years in New england climate.
     
  29. napoleon1815

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    It’s been totally reliable and no major issues...and paid off a long time ago. At about 145k...so I plan to run it into the ground before getting a new one.
     

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