17-year-old arrested in killing of 2 people in Kenosha

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We are about to suffer under 4 years of an anti-gun administration. The last thing we need is heavily-armed yahoos taking to the streets in places far from home. The "rooftop Koreans" did it correctly. They stood their ground and defended their businesses and homes, which were often located on the second floor of the business (shortens the daily commute!). I have been called a "coward" and a "fudd" by some of the internet commandos on this forum. Let's get one thing straight. If I heard screams and saw my next door neighbor being attacked by thugs or his wife being raped, there would be an armed intervention on my part. The perps' heads would be quickly separated from the rest of their filthy hides by some well-aimed gunfire.
OK I'll play along, it won't be 4 years it will be 8 years then another 8 years because once Joe wins this one his team will never lose another election in the former United States. When Joe wins the first thing we need is heavily armed yahoos taking to the streets. We are going to die, might as well die like a man. I'll be happily bleeding out in the street laughing at people like you whose fate is calmly and willingly boarding the train for a few more days of living on your knees.
 

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S.Boston?...in 2020?..
Southie is full of wealthy virtue signaling liberal millennials working for financial service and tech companies that buy the same dog as their boss to brownnose their way into a promotion after which fido gets dumped in a shelter and they move to the western suburbs or the the cape to birth their kids into a highly rated and non-diverse school district.

Look at Marty, that's the state of most of the 'old school' Boston natives with Irish ancestry. They aren't really Irish anymore and aren't 'blue dog' Democrats anymore, more like lapdogs. That generation died with Dapper Dan. and considering how badly James Michael Curley screwed up Boston from the Athens of America at the dawn of the 20th century into a petty backwater by the start of the Great Depression, that generation was never that great to begin with.
 

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U would be shocked how close they are right now😂
Honestly, Southie (i.e. South Boston) became pretty gay and yuppified by the mid to late aughts.
(Upvotes to you both for the SITREPs).

My sole memory of the South End was being stopped at a light
on a nice summer afternoon, behind an Über that pulled over
to let a passenger ralph in the gutter.

(Although I think once I came Danger Close to the South End when
I had dinner in town with my Best Man at some Gen-U-Wine Irish® Pub™
).

Lemme guess: the difference is that in Southie, no Über needed?
 

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Defending a next-door neighbor who is being attacked is a whole lot different than travelling 20 miles across state lines and getting involved in situations you know little about.
Why yes.

That's precisely what I said, too. So why'd you bring it up? It has nothing to do with Rittenhouse.
 
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OK I'll play along, it won't be 4 years it will be 8 years then another 8 years because once Joe wins this one his team will never lose another election in the former United States. When Joe wins the first thing we need is heavily armed yahoos taking to the streets. We are going to die, might as well die like a man. I'll be happily bleeding out in the street laughing at people like you whose fate is calmly and willingly boarding the train for a few more days of living on your knees.
OK I'll play along, it won't be 4 years it will be 8 years then another 8 years because once Joe wins this one his team will never lose another election in the former United States. When Joe wins the first thing we need is heavily armed yahoos taking to the streets. We are going to die, might as well die like a man. I'll be happily bleeding out in the street laughing at people like you whose fate is calmly and willingly boarding the train for a few more days of living on your knees.
OK, hero. We had a few Rambos who died young. This "Jose" character mentioned on this forum who died in a hail of SWAT gunfire. Costas Giorgiou, aka "Col. Callan" who decided to stick his nose in another country's problems and got captured, tried and executute for it. Then we have our hero Leonard Peltier. Blew away two FBI agents meddling in reservation affairs. Got life and still in federal prison. Check. Your move, hero!
 

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OK, hero. We had a few Rambos who died young. This "Jose" character mentioned on this forum who died in a hail of SWAT gunfire. Costas Giorgiou, aka "Col. Callan" who decided to stick his nose in another country's problems and got captured, tried and executute for it. Then we have our hero Leonard Peltier. Blew away two FBI agents meddling in reservation affairs. Got life and still in federal prison. Check. Your move, hero!
Dude when Biden wins conservatives like you are going to re-education camps, not to be re-educated that is commie-speak for genocide. Do you not know history? Are you going to get on the train peacefully like a jew or a Russian? Or are you going to take some of them out with you like an American?
 

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No charges were dropped.

Illinois didn't file any charges, because he never possessed the rifle in that state in violation of Illinois state law. KR still faces every original charge in Wisconsin.

But, some clickbait bloggers have to make money somehow, so they keep spreading that fake news.
 

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No charges were dropped.

Illinois didn't file any charges, because he never possessed the rifle in that state in violation of Illinois state law. KR still faces every original charge in Wisconsin.

But, some clickbait bloggers have to make money somehow, so they keep spreading that fake news.
No, that article isn't referring to Rittenhouse. It's referring to the dork in the parking lot that fired a shot in the air just before Rittenhouse took down the first guy. The dork had been charged for that, and that charge has now been dropped.
 

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No charges were dropped.

Illinois didn't file any charges, because he never possessed the rifle in that state in violation of Illinois state law. KR still faces every original charge in Wisconsin.

But, some clickbait bloggers have to make money somehow, so they keep spreading that fake news.
You need to read the article, it’s not about Kyle... it’s about the idiot that fired his handgun before Kyle did possibly causing or escalating the situation with Kyle and Rosenwhatever...
 

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let’s be honest here. The kid made a stupid choice. In the current climate you don’t arm yourself and go looking for trouble. I’m not saying what he did was morally wrong, but legally it was a stupid choice. I hope he get off and learns his lesson.

There are places I don’t go in America (and this state) because the chances are higher Than normal that something stupid might happen. A BLM riot is high on the list.
That I fully agree with. My issue was with the major factual inaccuracies and assertions in the post I quoted. If someone actually reads the info that is fully available and comes to a different opinion than my own supported by those facts, I have no issue. It is flying off the handle and getting offended by someone elses actions when you are making statements that are just factually wrong, well, that sounds like the MO of the groups doing the looting and not those defending against it.

"You" is generic people acting this way and not you personally. After looking back, didn't want to you think I was calling out you personally. I agree with your comment, but even if I didnt, it wasnt based in a false narrative or based on inaccurate info.
 

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It's probably been said already but if not I wish the po po/ press would compare Kyles circumstances to the two other Trump guy's that were assassinated. That being, the attacks were well planned, thought out and targeted specific individuals. From my perspective the victims were picked and culled out from their respective groups much the same way a wolf pack picks a kill. No doubt in my mind that there were not random acts of violence.
 

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We are about to suffer under 4 years of an anti-gun administration. The last thing we need is heavily-armed yahoos taking to the streets in places far from home. The "rooftop Koreans" did it correctly. They stood their ground and defended their businesses and homes, which were often located on the second floor of the business (shortens the daily commute!). I have been called a "coward" and a "fudd" by some of the internet commandos on this forum. Let's get one thing straight. If I heard screams and saw my next door neighbor being attacked by thugs or his wife being raped, there would be an armed intervention on my part. The perps' heads would be quickly separated from the rest of their filthy hides by some well-aimed gunfire.
Well that's stupid, you should just call the cops and let them handle it.
 

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let’s be honest here. The kid made a stupid choice. In the current climate you don’t arm yourself and go looking for trouble. I’m not saying what he did was morally wrong, but legally it was a stupid choice. I hope he get off and learns his lesson.

There are places I don’t go in America (and this state) because the chances are higher Than normal that something stupid might happen. A BLM riot is high on the list.
There was no plan! OK, if the kid was going to become part of an organized estate security team to protect a wealthy relative or was reaching out to friends in a neighborhood damaged by vandalism, fine. Get organized. Plan things. Don't just grab weapons and take to the streets, especially at night when all of the drunks and druggies are acting out. Wait till things calm down, gather supplies, plan the event and then make the move. Remember, not all jury members are gun people like we are. Good chance Rittenhouse could get some liberal anti-gun types on his jury. Local authorities could also use this case as an excuse to ban the carry of loaded and uncased long guns on public ways, like we have here in MA. In a lot of cities here in MA, my EDC 4" knife is illegal, thanks to local laws, which were enacted because of the criminal misuse of these common tools.
 
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Well... but that's nothing even close to what happened here with Rittenhouse. So it's apples to oranges. So why bring it up?

But since you did, you'd probably expect to be arrested and charged. And, using your logic, you (a heavily-armed thug who's just bragged on an internet forum about his willingness to behead people) should be imprisoned and anally raped just because there are a bunch of charges against you.

Right?
Witnessing an attempted murder or rape next door and taking action is a whole lot different than travelling 20 miles into a situation you know nothing about. If you don't know the difference, spend a C-note on a consultation with a good defense attorney or take LenS' class. He is the ONE person on this forum who seems to have a good knowledge of the law.
 

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Witnessing an attempted murder or rape next door and taking action is a whole lot different than travelling 20 miles into a situation you know nothing about. If you don't know the difference, spend a C-note on a consultation with a good defense attorney or take LenS' class. He is the ONE person on this forum who seems to have a good knowledge of the law.
Okay... I'll say it again, since post #1,174 is apparently too far back for you now.

You're saying precisely the same thing I am.

I'm not sure, then, why you even mentioned it as a comparison in the first place.
 
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Okay... I'll say it again, since post #1,174 is apparently too far back now.

You're saying precisely the same thing I am.

I'm not sure, then, why you even mentioned it as a comparison in the first place.
JURY. Possibly a liberal anti-gun jury. So...Suzy Smith might be OK with one of us saving a next-door from murder or rape. But would she be OK with vigilante action 20 miles away in another state. Her and others decide guilt or innocence; free or decades, if not life, in prison. Think about it. Suzy and her ilk might be anties. Wish for the best but expect the worst. Personally, I don't trust juries. YMMV.
 

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JURY. Possibly a liberal anti-gun jury. So...Suzy Smith might be OK with one of us saving a next-door from murder or rape. But would she be OK with vigilante action 20 miles away in another state. Her and others decide guilt or innocence; free or decades, if not life, in prison. Think about it. Suzy and her ilk might be anties. Wish for the best but expect the worst. Personally, I don't trust juries. YMMV.
[rolleyes]
 
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No...sneaky little bastard would not qualify for a FOID card in his home state of Illinois. Must be at least 18 with written parental permission or 21 without. No way could he purchase a long gun from an FFL because he is under the age of 18. He purchased it illegally via black market (stolen gun) or a straw purchase, the same way those two psychos who shot up Columbine had an older female friend buy their weapons for them. Where the hell were the parents? This kid was completely out of control! Why didn't the old man Rittenhouse take his young screwball son for a trip to the woodshed to beat some sense into him? This is the type of shit that Mas Ayoob warned about. Sure, Cooper, Taylor, Hackathorn and others taught their students the most efficient way to gun down assailants. Mas does the same, plus teaches his students how to survive the legal aftermath, both civil and criminal. One "genius" on this forum described Ayoob as a "fag"! Sad thing indeed to vanquish your opponent in an armed encounter, only to end up imprisoned for decades and penniless.
lol, you sharing Hunter Biden's crack pipe bro?

If it was an "illegal gun" or straw purchase that would be well known by now. You're just making shit up cuz you hate guns that don't sport wood furniture.
 
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