17-year-old arrested in killing of 2 people in Kenosha

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I cut Grosskutz some more slack, honestly. Hero complex, perhaps. Definitely jumped in “without the facts.” Other than that, he’s ironically pretty similar to Rittenhouse.

I’m undecided on grosskruetz but leaning towards ill intentions because of his long criminal record If you watch the body cam video of his DUI arrest months after the riots, grosskruetz is a punk and very hostile towards police. He’s either part of or has ties to Marxist groups and antifa.
 

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And now this just in. I still cannot comprehend how Race figures into it. If you haven't already avoided buying Levis here is another reason.

'Levi Strauss & Co. reached out to its U.S. employees offering individual counseling and promoting a forthcoming session with a "racial trauma specialist" to "help promote safety, sharing and to encourage healing" following the acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse, the company confirmed to FOX Business on Wednesday.

Levi's chief diversity, equity and inclusion officer, Elizabeth Morrison, sent an email following the verdict that began, "With the news that Kyle Rittenhouse was not convicted in the shooting of three individuals – two of whom lost their lives – during racial justice protests last year, this is a difficult day for many."

"The pain and trauma of race, identity and belief-based tragedies is a reality that many of us are struggling with on an ongoing basis," Morrison wrote before declaring, "To help promote safety, sharing and to encourage healing, I'll be hosting a fireside chat and Q&A with Dr. Jamila Codrington, a licensed psychologist and racial trauma specialist in early December."

Levi Strauss offers employees session with 'racial trauma specialist' over Rittenhouse acquittal
Are they providing trauma specialists to the uyghur slaves that they profit off of in China, too? I’m sure plenty of those folks would love to be ”traumatized“ like the pierced nose crowd that works in their US store. How about the children in the labor camps they still use in Bangladesh and Nicaragua, even after saying they would stop?
 

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Are they providing trauma specialists to the uyghur slaves that they profit off of in China, too? I’m sure plenty of those folks would love to be ”traumatized“ like the pierced nose crowd that works in their US store. How about the children in the labor camps they still use in Bangladesh and Nicaragua, even after saying they would stop?
Nope - it's all - ALL - about the pierced nose kiddies and their FEEEEEELINGS. f*** the slaves.
 
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I cut Grosskutz some more slack, honestly. Hero complex, perhaps. Definitely jumped in “without the facts.” Other than that, he’s ironically pretty similar to Rittenhouse.

His own video shows Kyle tell him he's going to police. He watched him running toward the police. He watched people attack Kyle from behind, to which Kyle did not respond with any force. He then watched two people attack Kyle while down, and only then did Kyle shoot. He had enough facts to know running up to him and pointing a gun at his face was likely to both be unreasonable and end poorly. He deserves not an ounce of slack.
 

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Somehow, The Atlantic published an article taking university administrations to task for issuing statements of dismay and opposition to the Rittenhouse verdict. Token effort of balance, or maybe all the Progressive journalists/editors took a long weekend and they needed copy to fill space?

"The mission of a university is the discovery, improvement, and dissemination of knowledge, it reasoned, and a university faithful to that mission will challenge social values, practices, and institutions. “A good university, like Socrates, will be upsetting,” the Kalven report asserted. But “the instrument of dissent and criticism is the individual faculty member or the individual student,” not the university itself, nor the administrators who speak for the whole. “The university is the home and sponsor of critics; it is not itself the critic.”
 

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Somehow, The Atlantic published an article taking university administrations to task for issuing statements of dismay and opposition to the Rittenhouse verdict. Token effort of balance, or maybe all the Progressive journalists/editors took a long weekend and they needed copy to fill space?
Maybe they're just laying the groundwork to cancel some university's administration
next week on behalf of some woke professors.
 

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We did not attend the trial because we could not bear to sit in a courtroom and repeatedly watch videos of our son's murder, and because we have been subjected to many hurtful and nasty comments in the past year. But we watched the trial closely, hoping it would bring us closure.

I think it must be a misquote. Here is what the actual quote should read...

We did not attend the trial because we could not bear to sit in a courtroom and repeatedly watch videos of our son trying to commit murder and because we have been subjected to many hurtful and nasty comments in the past year. But we watched the trial closely, hoping it would bring us closure.

I fixed it for them.
 

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It is sad that your son was killed. More so in the middle of engaging in an assault.

It is also sad that your son was part of a riot and had not learned from his past experience:

940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Dismissed on Prosecutor’s Motion
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater

941.30(2) 2nd-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety Felony G Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 939.63(1)(c) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

940.235(1) Strangulation and Suffocation Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

940.30 False Imprisonment Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(b) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
 

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I'm not going to get outraged over this. These are parents grieving for their kid; they were clearly in denial for a long time about his issues, but they still loved him and they're obviously unhappy he's gone. I can grasp that.

Our side won. I'm content. The "victims'" families can flap their gums all they want. Time to move on to the next fight, even if the Left chooses to dwell in the past and let it fester.
 

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I'm not going to get outraged over this. These are parents grieving for their kid; they were clearly in denial for a long time about his issues, but they still loved him and they're obviously unhappy he's gone. I can grasp that.

Our side won. I'm content. The "victims'" families can flap their gums all they want. Time to move on to the next fight, even if the Left chooses to dwell in the past and let it fester.
C’mon, man. They’re clearly setting the stage for a civil suit. f*** them.
 
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C’mon, man. They’re clearly setting the stage for a civil suit.

They’re going to lose that one too. The one against the Kenosha police will be dismissed before trial, it’s very difficult to sue governments, they’re going to find that out quickly. Also in a civil case all of the prior issues Huber had which were not permitted in the criminal trial will be allowed.
 

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C’mon, man. They’re clearly setting the stage for a civil suit. f*** them.

Right. That's the next fight.

His record and his actions that night will speak for themselves in the civil suit. If his parents want to bring one, they'll do it with or without a maudlin statement the court won't even read. Then another jury can decide whether the preponderance of the evidence suggests Kyle's acts were wrongful.

Whatever. They're grieving. Not my problem.
 

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That is precisely why an ethical press would not be promoting their statements.

You don't think their statements are newsworthy? I do. I can make my own judgements about those statements, but only if I know they exist. I'd rather have more information than less.

The press is going to do what the press is going to do. You and I can only control our own reactions. To me, this is nothing to get het up about, though I do realize this is NES. A LOT of posters here enjoy marinating in their outrage on all sorts of topics, so go at it I guess.
 
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That is precisely why an ethical press would not be promoting their statements.

Their statements are what they believe. Yes the statement is filled with false information but it’s still their view as self interested parties. I don’t have any issue with the media reporting on that as long as they post them unedited.

Reporting those statements etc is completely different than what the media did reporting on the shooting where they reported completely false factual information (not feelings from a family member).
 
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