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Military Vehicle ID please

Discussion in 'Military Bubbas' started by News Shooter, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. News Shooter

    News Shooter Member

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    I read recently that the military is preparing for urban insurrection.

    Today, I was driving through Devens and got behind a convoy of armored vehicles that I have seen in videos with pipes coming out of the roof that release smoke and tear gas.
    It's a four wheel vehicle with a small turret on top. No other weapons visible.

    I know there are fifty or sixty of these parked at the Army Reserve center at Devens.

    I tried finding out what these vehicle are but had no luck.
    Any help?
     
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    Look at Google Images of an MRAP. Is that it?

    -JR
     
  4. hurley431

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    M1117 ASV? You really need to give a better discription.

    Google that and give a yes or no. If it is, the tubes you saw are likely for smoke to obscure dismounted infantry/crew from enemy observation. Tear gas is a chemical weapon, and banned; therefore, it is not widely used by the U.S. Army and is unlikely to have a vehicle dedicated to it's use. There is also a HMMWV variant that is a smoke screen genorator
     
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    Yep that's it
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/asv.htm

    OK, so why would National Guard/Army Reserve have so many of these? What's the use for them?
    Thanks
     
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    Not trying to argue but when was tear gas banned ? I served back in the '70's so I'm not up on what's being used currently. I had to go through the gas house in Waukegan during boot and got a snootfull of CS. When my battallion (MCB-40) went for tactical traning we got hit with CS by OpForce.
     
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    We can use it on ourselves; but, if you hit a foriegn national with it you just committed a war-crime. It's BS, but then again, so are most of the rules we follow that no one else does.
    We still use CS for training too; at first it was all like "AHH!" but then it was alright.
     
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    Buncha' pussies.


    Geez now I need a .308 and AP ammo.
     
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    They are internal security vehicles used by Military Police; primarily for force protection (Base security) I've heard about them doing convoy security too; but, I've never seen it.

    FYI, no spellcheck on my work computer.
     
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    i dont see the issue. New vehicles get fielded. End of story.
     
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    I had two asv s, along with 4 1151. My 2 qualified asv crews didn't like them, and we started getting command.directed to take them.on missions. Too confined, couldn't engage over the back hatch easily, and we weren't allowed to.use the primary weapon system (mk19) in the city, and we were told pretty much not to use the.secondary(.50 cal) in the city.
    Good for a crew of midgets, in the open, on an ecp, but sucky for infantry missions.
     
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    You have to love it when officers who have no idea what the hell a patrol is start making you take useless BS that just endangers lives with you.
     
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    We developed a coa, we would just take the piglets down to cross swords and drive all over the place on down days to run the mileage up. So on qaqc days, it showed difference. Worked for a week or two.
     
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    If there's "civil unrest" on a large scale there's no doubt in my mind we'd be facing vehicles like this in the streets and neighborhoods.
     
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    I hate to bring this up, as I've experienced them first hand, but if we're talking go time all we need to do is take IED 101 and get to work. Now, if we are facing RG-31's and MATV's we'll have to adjust fire.
     
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    Is that available through the local vo-tech?
     
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    Nope; but, I can get you all a great group rate. (Fine print: Must join a combat arms MOS in the U.S. Army or Marine Corps and deploy to a warzone.)

    Seriously though, it really isn't that hard. Just by taking an IED defeat course you are all but certified to make the damn things.
    Just remember, every bomb maker will, given the time, eventually blow themselves up.

    Don't be so sure; alot of us take the fact that we swore to "uphold and defend the constitution" "from all enemies, foreign and domestic" very seriously. Attacking civilians is not in keeping with that oath; and, very few circumstances could ever make me deviate from it.
     
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    No but you can visit your local mosque and keep mentioning how much you hate Americans and I'm sure someone will take you under their wing and teach you.
     
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    I think its called a ferret, its a British made, light armored vehicle. its armed with tear gas launchers and a machine gun (usually 1919 or Mac 58) that is enclosed by an armored turret. They were produced between 1952-1971 and are still used today by both the military and police departments around the world and here in the US. Here's a link to the Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret_armoured_car
     

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