“At 11:02 he went and bought a gun. Was out of the store by 11:30 and he was dead by 3 or 3:30.”

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Parents of suicide victim push for gun waiting period in son's obituary | Boston.com

Left the house at 11, jumped in front of the 11:30 train to Boston, was dead by 11:35

Left the house at 11, drove to the top of the parking garage by 11:30 and jumped off, was dead by 11:35

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Classy Obit parents

 

[Horrible]

MA version:

Took training class in May
Applied for LTC in June
Appointment and fingerprints being treated like a criminal in August
Received LTC in November with restrictions just cuz
Buys gun in December
Offs himself in December

Same f***ing results!! Liberalism IS a mental illness

But it makes the liberals feeeel better to trample all over people’s Constitutional and God-given rights!

 

[Tweed]

Sad that they'll use anything to push the anti-gun agenda. Is the battered Spouse/GF supposed to wait 24-48 hours too?

 

[WanMan99]

Haters gonna hate and suiciders gonna suicide... Don't blame the rope or the building they jumped off of.

 

[Tarsook]

"he was a “rabid fan” of the Montreal Canadiens, according to his obituary."

Case Closed.

 

[RHJJ]

It couldn’t be your shitty parental skills that allowed your son to think suicide was a good option.

 

[Malodave]

He would have still done it after the waiting period even if there was one.

Same result in the end.

Malodave

 

[eboos]

Left the house at 11, jumped in front of the 11:30 train to Boston, was dead by 11:35

Left the house at 11, waited for the 11:30 train to Boston, froze to death by 2:15

 

[jhblaze1]

It couldn’t be your shitty parenting skills that allowed your son to think suicide was a good option.

you think "shitty parenting" is the primary driver of suicide? Pretty f***ed up comment, even for you.

 

[RumRunner]

So far we are also banning trains and parking garages right? Maybe we should make all buildings no more than one story, so we can have a lot of broken bones, but less deaths.

 

[RHJJ]

you think "shitty parenting" is the primary driver of suicide? Pretty f***ed up comment, even for you.

They are blaming a gun, I am blaming them. Both are equally stupid excuses for his suicide.

 

[Bonesinium]

There are 20-25,000 suicides in the US a year in which guns weren’t used but I’m sure waiting periods to by guns will have an impact on suicide. Oh wait...

 

[NeverMiss]

At 11:02 he went his bedroom to get the bottle of pills.
At 11:10 he was dead.

 

[RumRunner]

There are 20-25,000 suicides in the US a year in which guns weren’t used but I’m sure waiting periods to by guns will have an impact on suicide. Oh wait...

But if it makes it 19,999-24,999 it's worth taking rights away from everyone right?

 

[RumRunner]

At 11:02 he went his bedroom to get the bottle of pills.
At 11:10 he was dead.

So in this scenario, do we ban bedrooms or bottles of pills?

 

[RHJJ]

Kid gets in his car drives over 100 mph into a bridge abutment. Ban cars and bridges.

 

[Drix]

You're making awfully long trips.

Got in the car at 11:02
Hopped on 95 at 11:04
Hit 80 at 11:04:45
Hit the bridge pass at 11:05

 

[eboos]

Got in the car at 11:02
Hopped on 95 at 11:04

I wish I still had quick access to the interstate.

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

His LTC shouldn't have been issued. Killing yourself is not a lawful purpose, so he lied on his application. Sorry to the family though.

 

[RumRunner]

His LTC shouldn't have been issued. Killing yourself is not a lawful purpose, so he lied on his application. Sorry to the family though.

It should be revoked if he lied. But after reviewing the application, if he listed purpose as killing himself, then it should be immediately reinstated.

 

[Dennis in MA]

you think "shitty parenting" is the primary driver of suicide? Pretty f***ed up comment, even for you.

I'd go on record with that. I've watched too many "I'm too busy with my life to be a father" figures say those words that make me want to force them to eat their own teeth and a bucket of their own blood.

"We did everything we could!"

No you didn't you sack of excrement. You did the absolute minimum while sleeping under the same roof. Had you taken a SMIDGE of interest at ANY time, that child might have had a chance. Instead, you reinforced that they just didn't mean anything to anyone.

Is my theory tested and backed by data? Nope. For once on NES, I'm going on gut. I'd say a large % of suicides are people who started out with a crappy hand and didn't have the toolbox to dig themselves out of it.

Especially since the # of suicides per capita is way up from 40, 50 or 100 years ago. What drives that??? It certainly isn't a massive epidemic of mental disorders. It's the breakdown of the family. Even a s-wordy dad, when he's around, is better than these d-bags we've got in the last 30 years. As bad as my parents were (which was basically letting me sink or swim on my own at 9), we did a lot together and I had at least SOME sense of belonging at an early age.

One of the most heartbreaking moments I've ever seen was on The Sopranos. Meadow or AJ were grounded and Tony and Carmilla were pissing and moaning that it was going to cost THEM time to make sure they were punished. THEY couldn't go away for the weekend (with 2 HS level kids) because they had to "play babysitter." No question an accurate sign of the times. And absolutely heartbreaking.

 

[Jason Flare]

His LTC shouldn't have been issued. Killing yourself is not a lawful purpose, so he lied on his application. Sorry to the family though.

Actually it isn’t against the law to commit suicide.

He might be charged with discharging a firearm within blah blah feet of an occupied dwelling.

 

[jason19711971]

bought a cell phone at 11:am 11:15 killed by a car because he was texting. What should be the wait time to buy a cell phone?

 

[Glockster30]

His LTC shouldn't have been issued. Killing yourself is not a lawful purpose, so he lied on his application. Sorry to the family though.

A state or city/town license isn't required to buy a handgun in VT.

 

[enbloc]

He got all dressed up and left the house at 11, got to Roxbury by 11:30 and was dead by 11:35...

 

[PaulR]

didn't read yet but:
Anyone can commit suicide.
People with guns, people without guns.

Speaking from personal experience:
My brother committed suicide. I think it's shallow, short-sighted and petty to blame the gun (in this case my bro did not use a gun).
I blame myself, himself, and the failed healthcare system infinitely more than I blame the means of suicide.

 

[StevieP]

Bought car at 11:00

Smashed into bridge abutment at 11:05

or

Ran the engine in the garage and died of CO poisoning at about 12:00

 

[DPR]

Kid went to a gun store and 4 hours later shot himself ....and they think that's impulsive? They are assuming a waiting period would have prevented their son's suicide. I'll assume that he thought about this long before he walked into that store.

 

[StevieP]

I did not know this:

Vermont suicide rates far outpace nation's - VTDigger

 

[LLF]

With all due respect to the family what good would a waiting period have done?
Was he acting suicidal at the time? Had there been some upheaval in his life (loss of a job or a loved one, ending of a relationship) that made him do this? Did he give ANY signs that he was considering taking his own life? The story seems to indicate he was happy working at the brewery and spending time with "Biggie".
This is one of my problems with the "ERPO" law in Massachusetts -- it's not only UNCONSTITUTIONAL (violates the 2nd, 4th and 14th amendments) but it doesn't do ANYTHING to prevent suicides -- no funding for suicide prevention as GOAL had proposed. And you can kill yourself with a rope, a knife, poison, pills even if they do take your guns away.