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    The only problem is that you needed milk to make them.
    I remember using either powdered milk or milk in the little (Evaporated ? Condensed ?) cans with good results.

    I believe if you put Ramen noodles in a vacuume sealed bag they would last 100 years.
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    Wally mart has a bunch of mountain house stuff in the sporting department. Thought about checking some out. If they're palletable that could have a preparedness niche, but they're too expensive as a rule for me. I'm more oriented toward canned food, ramen noodles and large bags of rice, etc.

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    What is the shelf life of rice? I was at BJs tonight and noted that the 50-lb bags of rice are only $14. I'd like to set aside 3-4 months worth of food for my family and I'm thinking of storing rice inside large Rubbermaid plastic containers. I estimate each 100 lb would be good for about a month for my family.

    I'm also thinking about stockpiling large cans of tuna, bags of sugar, jugs of oil, etc. Any thoughts on rice or other readily obtainable (and edible) staples other than Raman noodles?

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    For rice you will have to use oxygen absorbers or diamatheus earth.
    # May be stored indefinitely* (in proper containers and conditions):

    * Wheat
    * Vegetable oils
    * Corn
    * Baking powder
    * Soybeans
    * Instant coffee, tea
    * Cocoa
    * Salt
    * Noncarbonated soft drinks
    * White rice
    * Bouillon products
    * Dry pasta
    * Vitamin C
    * Powdered milk (in nitrogen-packed cans)

    Which also means proper temps too.

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    I store my rice (and other LTS food) in food grade Mylar bags, inside 5 gallon plastic buckets that have a seal on the lid. Before I add the rice, I throw in 2-3 oxygen absorbers, then fill the bag until it's just at the top of the bucket, then throw in a few more oxygen absorbers. Once they are in, I seal the mylar bag with an iron, and pound the lid onto the bucket.

    Before I store any food like rice that is known to be a favorite of bugs like weevils, I freeze the food for at least a week, to not only kill any bugs that might be in the food, but also any eggs that they may have left behind. Then I do the above procedure.

    Rice is a great food to store, as it has all but an indefinite shelf life when the correct procedures are used to store it. However if you are looking to store food that will be your only source of sustenance in a SHTF scenario, you will need lots of other food types as well. Imagine eating just rice every day for a week... It would get old REAL fast. I figure rice as a staple in storage, but canned meats and bullion of different variety will make that same rice MUCH more interesting for long term.
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    So what are these oxygen absorber thingies? And where can I purchase food-grade mylar bags?

    I bought two 50-lb bags of rice, and intend to buy two or three more, along with some sugar, oil, pasta and dehydrated chicken stock. I'm also going to buy one case of ensure each time I go to BJs for the next couple months, but, damn...that stuff is expensive. I'm also thinking about building a pantry down in my basement where I can rotate stuff in and out, like giant cans of tuna, chile, peanut butter, jam, etc.

    I also have a water well and I'm going to rig up some sort of a manual pump for it.

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    Here's one place.
    www.sorbentsystems.com

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    Rather than attempt to seal food so that it will keep for the rest of your children's life times, here's a suggestion. I buy two large bags of rice, and start eating from one. When that one's gone, I open the second bag and buy a new one. The result is that I've always got at 50-100 pounds of rice on hand, and none of it's been sitting around for more than a year or two. I freeze each bag first to kill any insect infestation, then then store them in a bucket with a seal top. I do essentially the same thing with salt, sugar, soup base, dry beans, canned tuna, peanut butter, jam, honey, etc., all of which I keep in an extra metal book shelf in my basement.

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    keep food in the origonal wrapper:
    http://www.gatewaytovermont.com/thefarm/chickens.htm
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    and the kids will have fun too!

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    You really don't need to use mountain house and stuff for a long term stash. There are a lot of things that have an indefinite shelf life right in your supermarket. Here's a link.

    http://www.a1usa.net/gary/expire.html

    Save a few bucks using things like Spam and Dinty Moore, etc.. I know it's not like sitting at the Four Seasons, it's about a good size stash for long term, not about breaking the bank doing it. Plus this is all everyday stuff that you can use to rotate stock. Not your special purchase of M. House.

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