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    I sold my Ruger Mark III last year, and I've regretted it ever since. I've been thinking about replacing it lately, and torn between getting another new Mark III, or doing away with all the silly lawyer features and getting a pure Mark II. Either way, I'm want a blue bull barrel model. Does anyone have any thoughts on the Mark III vs. the Mark III?

    Also, is the market price for Mark IIs really $300+??? I figured since the Mark III isn't much more than $300 NEW (blue bull barrel is $315 at Four Seasons), I'd expect to find Mark IIs closer to $200. Is there that much demand for the Mark II, or am I just looking in the wrong place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyDedo View Post
    I sold my Ruger Mark III last year, and I've regretted it ever since. I've been thinking about replacing it lately, and torn between getting another new Mark III, or doing away with all the silly lawyer features and getting a pure Mark II. Either way, I'm want a blue bull barrel model. Does anyone have any thoughts on the Mark III vs. the Mark III?

    Also, is the market price for Mark IIs really $300+??? I figured since the Mark III isn't much more than $300 NEW (blue bull barrel is $315 at Four Seasons), I'd expect to find Mark IIs closer to $200. Is there that much demand for the Mark II, or am I just looking in the wrong place?
    I think the MK-III is a much better pistol than the MK-II. Just the fact that the mag release is in the right spot behind the trigger guard rather than at the bottom should be reason enough. I don't know why anyone would consider a MKII over a MKIII today. I've put thousands of rounds thru mine with no issues at all. And, as a bonus, the ammo it likes best is the cheapest Federal Bulk pack ammo at Walmart. It's not too often that the cheapest ammo around tends to work best in your gun.
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    I bought my competition Mark III about a month ago and I couldn't be happier. The only things I can really complain about are the thumbrest grip (dislike it due to a simple personal preference) and the sharp edge on the feed ramp. If it's leaning a little forward in the mag sometimes the first round will hang up on the ramp, which is a pain in the ass to clear since the slide won't lock open. Nothing like trying to clear a jam on a rimfire pistol with the mag unable to release and the slide looking to ram the round forward. It can be avoided by making sure that the first round in every mag isn't leaning forward at all, but if it continues to hang up I'm going to bevel the bottom edge of the ramp or have it polished. I recommend staying away from the Remington Thunderbolt rounds. Had eight duds out of a little over 300 rounds, all with good strikes. Never tried the Federal but have heard good things about it.
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    +1 on the Mark III. I'm very happy with mine, especially the "1911" grip angle. My first Ruger and it's a keeper. I can even field strip, clean and reassemble it now in less than an hour!

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    I bought a brand new MK III stainless bull barrel for a little under $400 (Cape Cod prices!) and I love it. In the first 500 rounds or so it had a handful of FTE's due to the spent cartridge hanging up on the recoil spring guide rod.
    That is quite a pain in the ass to clear, even with the ability to lock the bolt back. After that I drenched the bolt area and ejection port in oil, smoothed out the feed ramp just a tad, shot the hell out of it and now it runs beautifully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RG617 View Post
    I bought my competition Mark III about a month ago and I couldn't be happier. The only things I can really complain about are the thumbrest grip (dislike it due to a simple personal preference) and the sharp edge on the feed ramp. If it's leaning a little forward in the mag sometimes the first round will hang up on the ramp, which is a pain in the ass to clear since the slide won't lock open. Nothing like trying to clear a jam on a rimfire pistol with the mag unable to release and the slide looking to ram the round forward. It can be avoided by making sure that the first round in every mag isn't leaning forward at all, but if it continues to hang up I'm going to bevel the bottom edge of the ramp or have it polished. I recommend staying away from the Remington Thunderbolt rounds. Had eight duds out of a little over 300 rounds, all with good strikes. Never tried the Federal but have heard good things about it.
    I had some rounds jam into the feed ramp when I first got it. The ones that did jam jammed so bad that not even rounding that sharp edge would have helped. Lubing the mags seemed to help, as that angle being wrong seemed to be caused by the back of the brass dragging a bit on the inside of the mag causing the rounds to feed oddly. I sprayed some dry lube in my mags and I havent had that problem since. I do, however, instinctually make sure that first round has its bullet "up" when I load the mags.

    Mine eats federal bulk pack so well I havent really shot anything else. When the cheapest ammo feeds and shoots the best, I am a happy camper.

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    Keep looking for that Mark II, Tony!!

    Given the stupidity of the Mark III's magazine design, I found that the different placement of the mag release made NO difference in speed since the heel of the magazine, which goes partway up the rear of the grip, hangs up unless you open your hand completely. Stupid design.

    And I won't even get into the takedown procedure. Yes, it's a great shooter... but all those lawyer features just soured me completely on it. I'll never own a Mark III again. I love my "new" Mark II!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwarven1 View Post
    Keep looking for that Mark II, Tony!!

    Given the stupidity of the Mark III's magazine design, I found that the different placement of the mag release made NO difference in speed since the heel of the magazine, which goes partway up the rear of the grip, hangs up unless you open your hand completely. Stupid design.

    And I won't even get into the takedown procedure. Yes, it's a great shooter... but all those lawyer features just soured me completely on it. I'll never own a Mark III again. I love my "new" Mark II!
    I bought the Ruger Mk II Ross was looking to buy from his comments to buy a Ruger MkII instead of MkI or MkIII... I don't know if I shot a Ruger MkIII, but a Ruger MkI, uG!

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    I am on my second MK111, with well over five thousand rounds through both, and without a hiccup from the gun. The only problem I have ever encountered is misfired dud rounds using the thunderbolt ammo, as someone else had mentioned as well. I would estimate at least two out of a box of fifty.

    Other than that, it makes even me look good, which is hard........

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    I have a MKIII standard and I like it. It took a brick of ammo and some cleaning and lubing to break it in but, it has been fantastic. I was not a fan of the "safety" features at first. After using it to teach a couple of people, I love them. I actually found it comforting to have the loaded chamber indicator and the mag disconnect. They may make the gun a little tougher to clean but, not a big deal once you get it down. I thought I wanted a MKII, knowing what I know now, I would buy a MKIII again.

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