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Thread: MA-LTC flying out of T F Green
04-13-2012, 08:50 AM #11CCWing in RI w/o a resident/non-res permit is a no no.
I have flown out of TF Green on numerous occasions, and nobody has ever asked for my RI permit.
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04-13-2012, 08:55 AM #12
Thanks for the clarification, I thought I read in the post it had to be locked.
04-13-2012, 10:14 AM #13
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18 USC Sec. 926A 01/07/2011
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS
Sec. 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or
regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any
person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from
transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to
transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he
may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
(Added Pub. L. 99-360, Sec. 1(a), July 8, 1986, 100 Stat. 766.)
A prior section 926A, added Pub. L. 99-308, Sec. 107(a), May 19,
1986, 100 Stat. 460, provided that any person not prohibited by
this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm be
entitled to transport an unloaded, not readily accessible firearm
in interstate commerce notwithstanding any provision of any
legislation enacted, or rule or regulation prescribed by any State
or political subdivision thereof, prior to repeal by Pub. L. 99-
360, Sec. 1(a).
Section effective on date on which Firearms Owners' Protection
Act, Pub. L. 99-308, became effective, see section 2 of Pub. L. 99-
360, set out as an Effective Date of 1986 Amendments note under
section 921 of this title.
Last edited by newportri; 04-13-2012 at 10:15 AM. Reason: Fixed formating.
04-16-2012, 12:45 AM #14
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06-04-2012, 11:21 PM #15
After the visit, went to lunch with a colleague just over the border in Seekonk, MA and holstered back up. Driving home took me through Providence and back up 95 and 146, but I wasn't stopping so I didn't have to stow the pistol again.
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09-09-2013, 11:33 AM #16
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I hold CCW permits in both FL and MA. I fly into/out of T. F. Green airport during my trips to/from MA/FL.
After reviewing RI law and searching these forums, I cannot determine if it is legal for me to transfer my un-loaded and locked-in-a-hard-sided case firearm from luggage claim to a car, or the converse, from a car to luggage check-in.
I know that if I were driving through the state, I would be legal, under both Federal and RI law.
I contacted the RI State AG office and they are not allowed to give our legal opinions/interpretations.
While the general opinion in this thread is that I'd be safe, I would like to consult with an attorney who is an expert on this. Pls let me know who would be a good resource. The concern I have is that between the car and luggage claim/check in, I will be holing my luggage that has the case containing the firearm, as there is no clause in Federal or RI law that covers transferring the firearm between conveyances.
09-09-2013, 11:44 AM #17
Then you should call an attorney instead of posting in this thread and wasting everyone's time, if you don't believe us. You can call up Keith Langer - he's on the MA and RI bar. He'll tell you what we just told you for free.
09-09-2013, 12:11 PM #18
I know it's an old thread and we've beaten this to death in similar threads, but I'm going to point out that neither the airlines nor TSA care if you are "legal" other than that the firearms are locked up properly and the ammunition is stored properly. They don't even much care about the ammunition other than it can't be in the firearm or magazines.
On my last flight out and the return, the TSA didn't even open the case with the firearms.
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09-26-2013, 05:19 PM #19
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sorry. i didn't say it well enough. I meant "legal" for the TSA/Airline declarations, I didn't mean legal for CCW in their state.
so we are saying the same thing. Legal for CCW is fully up to you. and the cases (Newark Airport being the famous ones) are where somehow a local LEO happens to spot you with the firearm case and starts asking questions. the whole issue whether we are "in transit" (under FOPA) while going from car to airline counter or not.
and i have not heard any final answers (in the past few years) about Green and how they (LEOs) treat a MA CCW coming to Green and leaving on a flight.
this info is where the forum members could be useful. are they following the NJ/NY path of super strictness or are they pro-actively allowing a MA CCW to fly out of Green?
But, I for one, do not like being the guinea pig. So I have been sticking to Logan. and BTW, i rarely have airlines or TSA actually open my locked case anymore. as long as i have done the proper TSA/airline declarations, i have been good to go.
09-26-2013, 06:09 PM #20
Police do NOT "happen along" in NY/NJ airports. It is SOP for AIRLINE personnel to summon a cop every time someone declares a gun. Port Authority police make the arrests from there!
I am unaware of even any rumors of such Gestapo tactics used in any other state.
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