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    CCWing in RI w/o a resident/non-res permit is a no no.
    Unless, of course, you hold a permit from another state and it is not your intent to detain or delay yourself while driving through RI. (Yes, this is in the RI statutes).

    I have flown out of TF Green on numerous occasions, and nobody has ever asked for my RI permit.

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    Thanks for the clarification, I thought I read in the post it had to be locked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZCHRIS View Post
    Thanks for the clarification, I thought I read in the post it had to be locked.
    It doesn't have to be locked (unless your vehicle is for example a truck, see below), but it cannot be accessible while traveling through RI.


    -CITE-
    18 USC Sec. 926A 01/07/2011

    -EXPCITE-
    TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
    PART I - CRIMES
    CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS

    -HEAD-
    Sec. 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms

    -STATUTE-
    Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or
    regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any
    person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from
    transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to
    transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he
    may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm
    if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

    -SOURCE-
    (Added Pub. L. 99-360, Sec. 1(a), July 8, 1986, 100 Stat. 766.)


    -MISC1-
    PRIOR PROVISIONS
    A prior section 926A, added Pub. L. 99-308, Sec. 107(a), May 19,
    1986, 100 Stat. 460, provided that any person not prohibited by
    this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm be
    entitled to transport an unloaded, not readily accessible firearm
    in interstate commerce notwithstanding any provision of any
    legislation enacted, or rule or regulation prescribed by any State
    or political subdivision thereof, prior to repeal by Pub. L. 99-
    360, Sec. 1(a).

    EFFECTIVE DATE
    Section effective on date on which Firearms Owners' Protection
    Act, Pub. L. 99-308, became effective, see section 2 of Pub. L. 99-
    360, set out as an Effective Date of 1986 Amendments note under
    section 921 of this title.

    -End-
    http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/18C44.txt
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    Quote Originally Posted by newportri View Post
    It doesn't have to be locked (unless your vehicle is for example a truck, see below), but it cannot be accessible while traveling through RI.
    Incorrect.

    18 USC 926A is irrelevant, as RI statutes expressly permit transiting while armed.

    SEE: R.I.G.L. 11-47-8(a)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    Incorrect.

    18 USC 926A is irrelevant, as RI statutes expressly permit transiting while armed.

    SEE: R.I.G.L. 11-47-8(a)
    Funny... Just had to deal with this today. MA LTC-A unrestricted, I was visiting a customer in Riverside, RI so I stopped at the RI border on 146, unloaded and locked my pistol up.

    After the visit, went to lunch with a colleague just over the border in Seekonk, MA and holstered back up. Driving home took me through Providence and back up 95 and 146, but I wasn't stopping so I didn't have to stow the pistol again.

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    Hello,

    I hold CCW permits in both FL and MA. I fly into/out of T. F. Green airport during my trips to/from MA/FL.

    After reviewing RI law and searching these forums, I cannot determine if it is legal for me to transfer my un-loaded and locked-in-a-hard-sided case firearm from luggage claim to a car, or the converse, from a car to luggage check-in.

    I know that if I were driving through the state, I would be legal, under both Federal and RI law.

    I contacted the RI State AG office and they are not allowed to give our legal opinions/interpretations.

    While the general opinion in this thread is that I'd be safe, I would like to consult with an attorney who is an expert on this. Pls let me know who would be a good resource. The concern I have is that between the car and luggage claim/check in, I will be holing my luggage that has the case containing the firearm, as there is no clause in Federal or RI law that covers transferring the firearm between conveyances.

    Thank you.

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    Then you should call an attorney instead of posting in this thread and wasting everyone's time, if you don't believe us. You can call up Keith Langer - he's on the MA and RI bar. He'll tell you what we just told you for free.

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    I know it's an old thread and we've beaten this to death in similar threads, but I'm going to point out that neither the airlines nor TSA care if you are "legal" other than that the firearms are locked up properly and the ammunition is stored properly. They don't even much care about the ammunition other than it can't be in the firearm or magazines.

    On my last flight out and the return, the TSA didn't even open the case with the firearms.




    Quote Originally Posted by traveler57 View Post
    Note that airline staff and TSA are only confirming that you are legal at their airport and for your flight out. It is fully up to you to know the CCW laws of the states that you fly to. (Sorry if this is obvious.)
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    sorry. i didn't say it well enough. I meant "legal" for the TSA/Airline declarations, I didn't mean legal for CCW in their state.

    so we are saying the same thing. Legal for CCW is fully up to you. and the cases (Newark Airport being the famous ones) are where somehow a local LEO happens to spot you with the firearm case and starts asking questions. the whole issue whether we are "in transit" (under FOPA) while going from car to airline counter or not.

    and i have not heard any final answers (in the past few years) about Green and how they (LEOs) treat a MA CCW coming to Green and leaving on a flight.
    this info is where the forum members could be useful. are they following the NJ/NY path of super strictness or are they pro-actively allowing a MA CCW to fly out of Green?

    But, I for one, do not like being the guinea pig. So I have been sticking to Logan. and BTW, i rarely have airlines or TSA actually open my locked case anymore. as long as i have done the proper TSA/airline declarations, i have been good to go.


    Quote Originally Posted by Garys View Post
    I know it's an old thread and we've beaten this to death in similar threads, but I'm going to point out that neither the airlines nor TSA care if you are "legal" other than that the firearms are locked up properly and the ammunition is stored properly. They don't even much care about the ammunition other than it can't be in the firearm or magazines.

    On my last flight out and the return, the TSA didn't even open the case with the firearms.
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    Police do NOT "happen along" in NY/NJ airports. It is SOP for AIRLINE personnel to summon a cop every time someone declares a gun. Port Authority police make the arrests from there!

    I am unaware of even any rumors of such Gestapo tactics used in any other state.

    Our problem is "what if the airline does an unplanned landing at a NY/NJ airport?" which is what led to 3 years in jail for a PA resident returning from the left coast.
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