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    IPSC has been around since the mid 70's. IDPA, the 80's. Plenty of new shooters including women, children and handicapped have participated in these shooting sports and have followed the written rules to do so. These shooting games are intended to increase your shooting abilities. Learn to shoot with a .22 at your own range, on your own time. when you are ready to step up to a .38 or a 9mm, get comfortable with that then come to a USPSA or IDPA match and shoot, I'm sure they would love to have and help you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradM View Post
    Dan,

    Having the occasional person shoot a .22 for no score as an intro to USPSA really shouldn't be a big deal.
    You have that part right, an Intro to USPSA class is the ideal way to get one's feet wet, not in a match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradM View Post
    Dan,

    Hoping to bring her to HSC next week with me.

    TY43215,

    I didn't say anything about changing the rules. Letting someone shoot for no score doesn't affect you in the slightest. Having the occasional person shoot a .22 for no score as an intro to USPSA really shouldn't be a big deal.
    To allow someone to shoot a USPSA or IDPA match with equipment that violates the rules is a big deal. Did you not hear Mr. Amidon when he told the group at New Bedford the rules are the rules? I have felt that way as long as I have played the game.

    As Dan S wrote, hold an intro course or I could echo what HAMAR has written. He had a very accomplished Junior Shooter that played well within the rules. Miss you both at matches Hal :-)


    As for the two that I mentioned, yes, banned. As much as I enjoy them both and they would have had a great addition to this thread, when you don't play by the stated rules, you don't play.

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    we'll agree to disagree then.

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    Been following this thread and use a 22 for training but regarding competition - this from the rule book:

    PRINCIPLES of USPSA Competitions

    2. Accuracy, power (emphasis added) and speed are the equivalent elements of practical shooting
    and practical competition must be conducted in such a way as to evaluate
    these elements equally.

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    I firmly believe that .22 is great for training and whatever informal matches there are, but I do not think it is correct to use that in the official USPSA matches. On the other hand - it does happen, NB rifle match in the past had some new shooters with .22 once.

    No, they did not have much advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradM View Post
    we'll agree to disagree then.
    Here's a place to get started.
    http://independentclub.com/page28.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan S View Post
    Then take her to practice with you, and maybe some other folks too. Many youngsters and ladies, and even handicapped people shoot the games just the way they are intended and with the rules intact. Look at Katie Harris, she won the USPSA Multigun title in Tactical Optics and High Lady, she's 17 and weighs maybe 100 pounds. If the desire to compete is there, they will compete within the rules.
    Well stated Dan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradM View Post
    we'll agree to disagree then.
    At today's match here in VA, we had a 12 year old girl shooting a Glock 34, slowly but otherwise pretty well - and a 16 or 17 year old girl who schooled everyone in the squad.

    Those who haven't shot much should get familiar with guns on a .22 - however they shouldn't be bringing the .22s to USPSA events IMO as matches really do require a certain amount of minimal competency including the handling of 9mm handguns.
    Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and thus any interpretation or statements about the law that I might make should be taken with a grain of salt and mixed with your own legal research as well as advice from actual legal counsel. I cannot be held responsible if you find yourself somebody's "friend" in federal, state, or local prison should you act on my opinions on the law. My interpretations of the law will generally be on the conservative side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradM View Post
    My wife has been talking about wanting to shoot USPSA but IMO I think she'd feel more comfortable using a .22 the first time around. I'm hoping to get her to come to HSC practices with me in the meantime but personally I'm all for letting people shoot (no score) if it gives more people access to the sport. I can see someone wanting to try it with a .22, realizing how fun it is, and then coming back with a regulation gun and shooting for score. The same thing would apply for youngsters disabled, or just newer shooters - the more people we can get involved the better for the sport.
    Bring her to Harvard Wed's night, I will spend time with her..

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