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Thread: Military Vehicle ID please
03-25-2012, 12:25 PM #21Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and thus any interpretation or statements about the law that I might make should be taken with a grain of salt and mixed with your own legal research as well as advice from actual legal counsel. I cannot be held responsible if you find yourself somebody's "friend" in federal, state, or local prison should you act on my opinions on the law. My interpretations of the law will generally be on the conservative side.
04-08-2012, 03:03 AM #22
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- Jan 2009
- Western Mass
Ahhh..... I loved the ASV. I was in an ARMY reserve unit and my "guntruck" platoon was attached to an Airborne/Air Assault Field Artillery unit running CLP's (combat logistical patrols). My reserve unit brought them to the FA unit
It is an M1117 ASV (Armored Security Vehicle) "The Guardian" and it is made by Cadillac Gauge and Textron. It uses a few different types of weapons systems but mine had a co-axial weapons system utilizing a Mk19 and 50 cal (have seen dual 50 cals). The funny looking canisters on the rear of the turret are for smoke grenades that pop out in a half circle in front of the turret. It has a very good night vision system and the turret is controlled electronically with a hand crank for fine tuning. Also seats 4 crew. We rolled with 3, a little snug but it worked..and so did the 30,000 BTU air conditioner!.... I absolutely loved it and it did it's job very well.
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04-08-2012, 07:26 PM #23
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- Dec 2008
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I rode around in a turret in one of those for a few months, and hated it. The only thing I liked was the AC.
There are a lot of draw backs to them and I was glad to go back in the turret of an up armored HMMWV.
04-08-2012, 07:58 PM #24
Doctrine has changed, and Hummers, Bradleys and Abrams were not the best vehicle to fight with in our recent war and our current war. Something like a M1117 is ideal for movement over urban terrain, convoy protection and base protection. It's important to realize that the Army always prepares to fight the last war and bases its doctrine around it. For example, the US military will no longer be prepared to fight two major contingencies simultaneously in two different parts of the world. The heavy division as we know it, is dead. Brigade Combat Teams tailored for specific missions are and will be the norm.
It only stands to reason that both the Guard and Reserves are being equipped to reflect this change in doctrine which foresees non-linear battle against unconventional forces. Special Operations is also being beefed up.
Now if we ever have to fight a Chinese Expeditionary Force in the Middle East over dwindling oil reserves, or fight somewhere else in the world with a conventional force (I think even today military planners don't see a major land war on the Korean Peninsula, and if that happens, the ROK Army is not the army it was even twenty years ago, it can bear the brunt of the battle) over water, our force structure won't be able to handle it, but we as sure as hell can protect convoys and fight in cities like Baghdad. The US had a role for horse cavalry until 1943, too.Member, Leominster Sportsmen's Association
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03-23-2013, 12:46 PM #25
MPs used them for convoy security but they are flat on the bottom. They were death traps for ieds. Replaced with MRAPS. im sure they will be used for base security and LEO uses to make up loss of gov contract.Death before dishonor
03-24-2013, 10:09 AM #26
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- May 2011
there are quite a few of these in reading at camp curtis guild.