Reply With QuoteIn many instances, part of the "safety" test is that the PIC attempts to hand you a revolver with the cylinder closed. The correct response is to say "Open it, please," before accepting the hand-off.
I just dropped by the the Boston PD HQ this afternoon to pick up the forms. I made a PDF copy of the blanks before filling them out. If anyone has a place to host the pdf or would like a copy to look at feel free to send me pm.
I'm really surprised that the Boston form doesn't ask for references like the generic MA one does.
Nathaniel
In many instances, part of the "safety" test is that the PIC attempts to hand you a revolver with the cylinder closed. The correct response is to say "Open it, please," before accepting the hand-off.
FYI, you can now get a copy of Nathaniel's PDF version of the Boston application on-line, Note that the original is printed on a green paper and, given Boston's approach to all things related to guns, I doubt they'd accept a copy printed at home. Never lived there; never applied there. It's just a suspicion.
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Also, if enough people start to say 'I own guns and I vote' they will listen. Example is Bart Stupak. Sort of liberal but dares not to vote on the gun issues because he will not get re-elected because of an extremely pro-gun area of Michigan.Originally Posted by Lynne
Yes, there's a point. If they keep hearing from people about how bad the gun laws are for the lawful, and, if they hear from enough of them, then maybe, just maybe they'll start to listen. I know, I know...hell will freeze over first, but ya never know. Miracles CAN happen.
Politicians now adays don't vote with what is right, they vote the way that will ensure them to get re-elected from their district and have money funneled to them by their favorite PAC's.
"That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government..." - Thomas Jefferson
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Brilliant idea, Nathaniel!
FYI: I doubt they'll accept a white-paper version of this PDF. The primary use of the form is as an office aid to help process the request. Paper of a different color than their standard green would be less useful as an aid and thus complicate the process.
But, if you are a prospective applicant, don't overlook the usefulness of that PDF. As you can see, almost all of the requested information is on the first page, left column. And all they ask is your name, address, phone number. There are a few places further in the form where you have to sign releases, oaths of honesty, etc. There isn't anything complicated in the whole batch. The actual, important questions are the state questions (found on the state website), which will be verbally asked during the application interview. Print out Nathaniel's PDF copy, fill it out at home, and, if required, recopy the information by hand onto the official form at the BPD when you get there. By using the PDF that way, you save yourself the bother of having to do that that first, packet-gathering trip to BP Headquarters. For most people, that’s an extra ½ day of work that they don’t have to sacrifice just to make a round trip to Roxbury.
I just noticed something interesting on page 4 of the application, under Class A, Restrictions. There are 2 restrictions: Business, and Target. The implication is that there are no other choices, and that there must be some restriction applied. This is also essentially what was told to me at the time of my application when I tried to apply for a Class A, All Lawful Purposes license. All I ended up getting was a Class A w/Target restriction because I didn't want to tell a police officer to her face that she was wrong. However, mandatory restrictions are not the law; it's just the BPD sticking their oar in and causing the applicant extra trouble. I'm not a lawyer, but if you don't want to put up with that sort of BS, get a lawyer and don't let the BPD pull that sort of trick on you.
Just a little more information. I was originally told a valid US passport would be acceptable instead of birth certificate. My parents still have my birth certificate in their safety deposit box and I didn't want to bother them about it. No such luck, you MUST have a copy of your birth certificate.
Only utility bills (gas, electric, water/sewer) are accepted. They would not accept my cable bills. Bills must be in your name. If you don't have a bill they accept in your name, you must go to Boston City hall and request proof of residency.
To request proof of residency go to the voter registration desk, room 241 in City Hall. The cost is $4, money order only, no cash. You can get a money order at CVS across the street for $5 and change.
I love this town. [roll]
Here is the Document Check List they provided me (different from what they showed me when I picked up my application):
Copy of Birth Certificate
Proof of City of Boston Residency (Voters Registration, Utility Bills)
Copy of your Massachusetts Drivers License
Copy of Naturalization Documentation for Naturalized Citizens
Copy of your old LTC or FID if renewing
Copy of your Massachusetts Approved Basic Firearms Certificate
Letter from Employer ( Conditional w/ Employment Permits)
Letter of current membership in a Massachusetts Gun Club
Proof of Business Ownership in the City of Boston (Non city Residents)
Copy of Business Certificate / Corporation Documents
Bank Relationship Letter and/or Copies of Current Cash Deposit Slips (15)
Letter of Membership and Good Conduct from Bar of Overseers
Copries of closed Restraining Orders to include copies of the affidavits
$100 Cash for LTC/FID 6 years
$25 Cash for Restricted FID for Chemical Propellants (No renewal fees)
May I assume that they are looking for ALL (or most) of these items?
They are missing the boat on not requiring a DNA, urine and fecal sample! [roll] I'm sure that they could get much more out of these than demanding a copy of your birth certificate for each time you apply . . . but I guess that you could have changed your birthplace between LTC applications, right! [roll] [evil]
Not every item is required for every application
For my application, (probably the most common) a sporting restricted license, US citizens, no past restraining orders. I "only" need birth certificate, proof of boston residency, drivers license, saftey cert, gun club letter, and $100 cash.
Yea I'm suprised I didn't have to submit to a hair sample or some other genetic material. Don't worry I'm sure there is legislation for it somewhere.
Sounds like they bend you over and take that one themselves.
Hey all, thanks for all the info. I've got all my paperwork and will be heading in to BPD for my LTC tomorrow. Wish me luck. I'll check back in with any interesting news.
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