What happens to the Massachusetts registrations when you move out of state? - Page 2

LenS · 11-03-2009, 04:47 PM

It's in the MGLs that failure to notify is grounds for revocation. Therefore if you fail to notify and at some later date, for whatever reason, either file for a NR LTC or move back to MA, they can use that to prevent you from every getting a MA LTC again.

Baystatesuks · 11-03-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LenS

It's in the MGLs that failure to notify is grounds for revocation. Therefore if you fail to notify and at some later date, for whatever reason, either file for a NR LTC or move back to MA, they can use that to prevent you from every getting a MA LTC again.

I am not going to disagree with you on your point, but if I no longer have an LTC by operation of law because I left the state, and the notification provision applies only when you have an LTC, it makes no sense for me to notify them regarding my now non-existent LTC.

LenS · 11-03-2009, 04:56 PM

The law may be poorly written, but the net impact is as I stated. If for any reason you need one in the future you can legally be denied due to failure to notify. You can weigh saving $10 in Certified mailings vs. any such potential (and if it were to happen you have to notify every state when applying for renewal that you had been denied and explain it, forever!).

If I were king (which will never happen), MA gun laws would look something like NH's gun laws . . . a total of ~1 page but with VT's "licensing requirement"!

drgrant · 11-03-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baystatesuks

I am not going to disagree with you on your point, but if I no longer have an LTC by operation of law because I left the state, and the notification provision applies only when you have an LTC, it makes no sense for me to notify them regarding my now non-existent LTC.

Nobody ever said it had to make sense. This is MA we're talking about here.

-Mike

Baystatesuks · 11-03-2009, 04:59 PM

Well, I don't think I am going to notify them of anything. As a citizen of a different state, their gun laws no longer apply to me unless I am physically in the state.

Plus, my imminent and certain denial of a future LTC is one more reason to tell my wife that we can never move back. Not being able to move back alone is the perfect reason not to tell them.

drgrant · 11-03-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Baystatesuks

Plus, my imminent and certain denial of a future LTC is one more reason to tell my wife that we can never move back. Not being able to move back alone is the perfect reason not to tell them.

To one guy it's a bug, another it's a feature!

-Mike

Baystatesuks · 11-03-2009, 05:07 PM

Hey, I will use whatever ammunition and means I can find to avoid ever having to move back to MA. I will change jobs, move to a cave, maybe even get a sex change just to not have to become subject to MA laws (and not just gun laws either) ever again.

Horrible · 11-03-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Baystatesuks

...maybe even get a sex change just to not have to become subject to MA laws (and not just gun laws either) ever again.

Hey, you can take solace in the fact that in MA they would pay for your sex change if you got locked up for failure to notify

swampy · 11-03-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by swampy

Does Massachusetts keep the gun registration information once a resident leaves the state? Do they forward that information to the new state when you inform them that you've moved?

My need to know was twofold. I wanted to know if Mass kept records so if ever the opportunity to prove a gun was at some point registered in MA to perhaps make it legal to transfer instate and also to know if NY, NJ, CA or any other commie state back checked chain of ownership. So many of us are leaving state with our guns that eventually there won't be many or any old guns left. If a gun leaves state and stays on the registered list it should be considered legal forever since it never technically was un-registered and never technically out of state...on paper.

Kaos116 · 11-03-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LenS

The law may be poorly written, but the net impact is as I stated. If for any reason you need one in the future you can legally be denied due to failure to notify. You can weigh saving $10 in Certified mailings vs. any such potential (and if it were to happen you have to notify every state when applying for renewal that you had been denied and explain it, forever!).

As certain as you are never to return. I wouldn't chance it.

11-03-2009, 04:47 PM	#11
LenS NES Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 17,537 iTrader: (11)	It's in the MGLs that failure to notify is grounds for revocation. Therefore if you fail to notify and at some later date, for whatever reason, either file for a NR LTC or move back to MA, they can use that to prevent you from every getting a MA LTC again. __________________ We have met the enemy and he is US!

11-03-2009, 04:56 PM	#13
LenS NES Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 17,537 iTrader: (11)	The law may be poorly written, but the net impact is as I stated. If for any reason you need one in the future you can legally be denied due to failure to notify. You can weigh saving $10 in Certified mailings vs. any such potential (and if it were to happen you have to notify every state when applying for renewal that you had been denied and explain it, forever!). If I were king (which will never happen), MA gun laws would look something like NH's gun laws . . . a total of ~1 page but with VT's "licensing requirement"! __________________ We have met the enemy and he is US!

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11-03-2009, 04:59 PM	#15
Baystatesuks Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beautiful, Free Virginia Posts: 595 iTrader: (0)	Well, I don't think I am going to notify them of anything. As a citizen of a different state, their gun laws no longer apply to me unless I am physically in the state. Plus, my imminent and certain denial of a future LTC is one more reason to tell my wife that we can never move back. Not being able to move back alone is the perfect reason not to tell them.

11-03-2009, 05:07 PM	#17
Baystatesuks Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beautiful, Free Virginia Posts: 595 iTrader: (0)	Hey, I will use whatever ammunition and means I can find to avoid ever having to move back to MA. I will change jobs, move to a cave, maybe even get a sex change just to not have to become subject to MA laws (and not just gun laws either) ever again.