Non-resident LTC arrived, WTF?

[ixia]

Originally Posted by drgrant

Are you a non-US citizen? (eg, a legal alien).

The people at CHSB or wherever recently started applying that part of the law. Anyone who is not a US citizen will not get an unrestricted nonresident license.

-Mike

No, I'm just a regular guy. I have permits from Maine, New Hampshire, and Utah without any issues.

[drgrant]

Originally Posted by ixia

No, I'm just a regular guy. I have permits from Maine, New Hampshire, and Utah without any issues.

That's bizarre, then, it sounds like they ripped you off, if they told you it was going to be unrestricted.

-Mike

[RFWAVELENGTH]

Originally Posted by drgrant

That's bizarre, then, it sounds like they ripped you off, if they told you it was going to be unrestricted.

-Mike

A few years ago, the people at my sportsmens' club (Pelham Fish and Game) were talking about how easy it was for an out-of-stater to get a nonresident MA LTC-A unrestricted, while residents had to put up with a lot of abuse from anti-gun, politically correct CLEOS and end up with highly restricted licenses. To make things worse, the nonresident didn't even have to be interviewed. Everything done through the U.S. Mail. I knew that one day, the cat would end up out of the bag and this "loophole" would be closed by the antis. This guy's story is not unique. All nonresidents have to go to Chelsea now for a "chat" with the bureaucrats, paying $100 annually for a mostly-useless LTC. Gov. Deval Patrick even wanted to raise the fee to $300/year! I can assume that will be next. One advantage that nonresident hunters have is that they can possess rifles/shotguns and ammo in MA during hunting season if they have a valid hunting license, unlike guys like myself who have to possess a FID and a hunting license. I do not know how out-of-state women who work here in MA will be able to legally possess Mace/pepper spray with these newly-restricted licenses. Nonresidents are not eligible for any type of FID card.

[Baystatesuks]

So, if I lived in Utah or some far away state and was applying for a non-resident LTC, I would now have to travel to MA and go to Chelsea for an interview before they would give me a non-resident LTC?

[RFWAVELENGTH]

Originally Posted by Baystatesuks

So, if I lived in Utah or some far away state and was applying for a non-resident LTC, I would now have to travel to MA and go to Chelsea for an interview before they would give me a non-resident LTC?

Yes, so you can add plane fare, hotel accommodations, car rental and restaurant meals to the $100/year fee. That would be one VERY expensive non-resident "restricted" LTC. This apparently is what they want: discourage all but the wealthy or those non-residents who have jobs in MA that require them to be armed.

[drgrant]

Originally Posted by RFWAVELENGTH

A few years ago, the people at my sportsmens' club (Pelham Fish and Game) were talking about how easy it was for an out-of-stater to get a nonresident MA LTC-A unrestricted, while residents had to put up with a lot of abuse from anti-gun, politically correct CLEOS and end up with highly restricted licenses. To make things worse, the nonresident didn't even have to be interviewed. Everything done through the U.S. Mail. I knew that one day, the cat would end up out of the bag and this "loophole" would be closed by the antis. This guy's story is not unique. All nonresidents have to go to Chelsea now for a "chat" with the bureaucrats, paying $100 annually for a mostly-useless LTC. Deval even wanted to raise the fee to $300/year! I can assume that will be next.

This has varied on and off over the years. Sometimes it was easy for people to get a nonres, other times they wanted the swan song letter and the whole 9 yards. It smells like it's back to that mode now, but it looks like they ripped off ixia here if they told him he was not going to be
restricted.

I do not know how out-of-state women who work here in MA will be able to legall possess Mace/pepper spray with these newly-restricted licenses. Nonresidents are not eligible for any type of FID card.

I don't really think the restrictions were intended to apply to OC, but who knows. The point is somewhat moot anyways since I doubt most women carrying OC in MA that don't live here are licensed. If they are licensed as nonresidents they're probably going to be carrying a gun instead.

-Mike

[drgrant]

Originally Posted by Baystatesuks

So, if I lived in Utah or some far away state and was applying for a non-resident LTC, I would now have to travel to MA and go to Chelsea for an interview before they would give me a non-resident LTC?

Yes. They no longer do mail in apps anymore.

-Mike

[RFWAVELENGTH]

Originally Posted by drgrant

This has varied on and off over the years. Sometimes it was easy for people to get a nonres, other times they wanted the swan song letter and the whole 9 yards. It smells like it's back to that mode now, but it looks like they ripped off ixia here if they told him he was not going to be
restricted.



I don't really think the restrictions were intended to apply to OC, but who knows. The point is somewhat moot anyways since I doubt most women carrying OC in MA that don't live here are licensed. If they are licensed as nonresidents they're probably going to be carrying a gun instead.

-Mike

If this continues, there will be almost no unrestricted non-resident LTCs. You are correct: I personally know women who carry OC without a FID/LTC (my girlfriend is one of them). I gave them a word-to-the-wise heads-up and left it at that. If they get caught, they can take the fall. That said, a woman could use a container of OC on an assailant and then toss it out a car window as she drives away. No serial numbers, quiet, impossible to trace.

[Baystatesuks]

Originally Posted by drgrant

Yes. They no longer do mail in apps anymore.

-Mike

Hmmm, seems to me that is a severe restriction on getting a non-resident LTC even if you only wanted a restricted one. I mean I only want one for gazing and drooling over cool guns. I don't want to go all the way to Chelsea just to get that though.

[Baldkat82]

Originally Posted by RFWAVELENGTH

If this continues, there will be almost no unrestricted non-resident LTCs. You are correct: I personally know women who carry OC without a FID/LTC (my girlfriend is one of them). I gave them a word-to-the-wise heads-up and left it at that. If they get caught, they can take the fall. That said, a woman could use a container of OC on an assailant and then toss it out a car window as she drives away. No serial numbers, quiet, impossible to trace.

I know plenty of women who also do not have a license yet carry mace/pepper spray. One was a former supervisor at work. I tolde her you need to get a license for it. She didn't care, even though it's only $25.