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People Scamming The Mass Health Care System? Say it Ain't So!

This is a discussion on People Scamming The Mass Health Care System? Say it Ain't So! within the Off-Topic forums, part of the General category; From the Glob: http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._costs/?page=1 Here's an excerpt. Click above link for full story. Short-term customers boosting health costs. Lesson for ...

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    Default People Scamming The Mass Health Care System? Say it Ain't So!

    From the Glob:

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._costs/?page=1

    Here's an excerpt. Click above link for full story.

    Short-term customers boosting health costs. Lesson for US overhaul in gaming of Mass. system


    Thousands of consumers are gaming Massachusetts’ 2006 health insurance law by buying insurance when they need to cover pricey medical care, such as fertility treatments and knee surgery, and then swiftly dropping coverage, a practice that insurance executives say is driving up costs for other people and small businesses.

    In 2009 alone, 936 people signed up for coverage with Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Massachusetts for three months or less and ran up claims of more than $1,000 per month while in the plan. Their medical spending while insured was more than four times the average for consumers who buy coverage on their own and retain it in a normal fashion, according to data the state’s largest private insurer provided the Globe.

    The typical monthly premium for these short-term members was $400, but their average claims exceeded $2,200 per month. The previous year, the company’s data show it had even more high-spending, short-term members. Over those two years, the figures suggest the price tag ran into the millions.

    Other insurers could not produce such detailed information for short-term customers but said they have witnessed a similar pattern. And, they said, the phenomenon is likely to be repeated on a grander scale when the new national health care law begins requiring most people to have insurance in 2014, unless federal regulators craft regulations to avoid the pitfall.

    “These consumers come in and get their service, and then they leave because current regulations allow them to do it,’’ said Todd Bailey, vice president of underwriting at Fallon Community Health Plan, the state’s fourth-largest insurer.

    The problem is, it is less expensive for consumers — especially young and healthy people — to pay the monthly penalty of as much as $93 imposed under the state law for not having insurance, than to buy the coverage year-round. This is also the case under the federal health care overhaul legislation signed by the president, insurers say.
    Of course this could never happen on a national level under Obamascare.

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    It CANT happen under Obamacare, the ultimate goal is to give it away for free to the freeloaders and let the rest of us pay for it all.

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    Simple solution: Just raise our premiums to cover those who scam the system.





    oh wait

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    Honestly, with the number of people I know who do this kind of thing, and then instead of paying the penalty take the "Religious exemption" im not surprised at all that the costs are way up.

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    How about someone who came in from a foreign country to live with a sibling. Came into the country knowing they needed very expensive treatment for a preexisting condition diagnosed in their own country. Withing 3 weeks of arrival to the peoples republic of MA is already on Mass Health and is already getting that very expensive treatment. Never paid a dime into the system, is not a US citizen, is not really even a true MA resident. Great system. No wonder it is going bankrupt.

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    As soon as Obamacare kicks in I'm dropping all insurance, paying the fine and when I need health care I'm snagging a policy to get what I need. End of story. If you suckers want to play by the rules so-be-it. I'm not.

    and if everyone does that, that health care reform will be flushed so fast it isn't even funny!

    What were these idiots thinking?
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    ^^ that, and start working at a farm and be paid in food
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWillie View Post
    What were these idiots thinking?
    That they can save the world and become the de facto rulers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWillie View Post

    What were these idiots thinking?
    There is an assumption in your question that may be dubious.

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    Using the MA system as a national model was ludicrious, at best. Guess what's going to happen to once they pass immigration reform? Yup...it will collapse even more quickly. The penaly for not getting insurance needs to exceed the cost of having coverage otherwise the underlying assumptions will fail (i.e., having the healthy enrolled in the system to offset the cost for sick folks). Apparently nobody in Washington was paying attention to (or cared) what was going here.

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