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Supreme Court Rules on Obamacare
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06-28-2012, 10:08 AM #1NES Member
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Supreme Court Rules on Obamacare
"[Updated at 10:06 a.m. ET] In a landmark decision that will impact the nation for decades, the Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a key provision of President Barack Obama's health care law, ruling that requiring people to have health insurance violates the Constitution."
"the individual mandate is called not a valid exercise of the commerce clause."
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/28...-law/?on.cnn=1Last edited by richc; 06-28-2012 at 10:10 AM.
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hearing conflicting reports that its been held up
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Scotus blog...live streaming of cases.
http://www.scotusblog.com/cover-it-live/
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The individual mandate survives as a tax.
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Amy Howe: It's very complicated, so we're still figuring it out.
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Kali: We are still here. Don't worry.
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Tom: So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.
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Amy Howe: The Medicaid provision is limited but not invalidated.
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Tom: The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read.
From scotus blogLaws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764)
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06-28-2012, 10:14 AM #4
Says it was upheld here. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sup...me_latest_news
“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny”
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”
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"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the people's liberty's teeth."
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"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson
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Drudge is saying it is upheld
Edit: Uphled 6-3, Edit- AP is saying 5-4
'Congress had the power to impose the exaction in Section 5000A under the taxing power, and that Section 5000A need not be read to do more than impose a tax. This is sufficient to sustain it. '
The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate.
Remember when Obamacare was not a tax?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-is-not-a-tax/Last edited by Madball13; 06-28-2012 at 10:40 AM.
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Hah wtf??
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Amateurs do it until they get it right.
Professionals do it until they don't get it wrong.
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Four more years.
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Tom: Chief Justice Roberts' vote saved the ACA.Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764)
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We're screwed.
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CNN reports - the individual mandate got struck down..
Edit: Never mind - they just changed their breaking news :(When a good shooter with a poor gun meets a poor shooter with a good gun, the good shooter will have the good gun...
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