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Dont Mess with Finland
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06-21-2012, 08:16 PM #1
06-21-2012, 08:26 PM #2
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- Grid 17S with bugout longterm shelter and great fields of fire if needed
Very efficient!! making good use of every round fired!
06-21-2012, 08:34 PM #3
If you count in the "missing" Commies - the Finns disposed of the Red Army at a ratio of approximately 23 to 1 (Commie losses to Finn losses).
This is a good historical example to bring up when the whiners start complaining about how a resistance could never win against a modern army.
Winter War, Afghanistan, Vietnam, - the examples just keep piling up.
06-21-2012, 08:48 PM #4
Those 1.5 million men, is that what they used just to invade Finland?
Also, I am not surprised. The Russians probably used the same tactics they used in Stalingrad, except they used them against an army that was not tired, and was waiting for them.
06-21-2012, 09:09 PM #5
Simo Hayha, FTW...
During the Winter War (1939–1940), between Finland and the Soviet Union, he began his duty as a sniper and fought for the Finnish Army against the Red Army. In temperatures between −40 and −20 degrees Celsius, dressed completely in white camouflage, Häyhä was credited with 505 confirmed kills of Soviet soldiers. A daily account of the kills at Kollaa was conducted for the Finnish snipers. Remarkably, all of Häyhä's kills were accomplished in fewer than 100 days – in other words, an average of 5 kills per day – at a time of year with very short hours of daylight.
Häyhä used a Finnish militia variant of the Russian-made Mosin-Nagant rifle, the White Guard M/28 "Pystykorva" (literally Spitz, due to the sight's resemblance), because it suited his small frame (5 ft 3 in/1.60 m). He preferred to use iron sights rather than telescopic sights to present a smaller target (the sniper must raise his head higher when using a telescopic sight), for reliability (a telescopic sight's glass can fog up easily in cold weather) and for aid in concealment (sunlight glare in telescopic sight lenses can reveal a sniper's position).
The Soviets tried several ploys to get rid of him, including counter-snipers and artillery strikes. On March 6, 1940, Häyhä was shot in the lower left jaw by a Russian soldier during combat. The bullet tumbled upon impact and exited his head. He was picked up by fellow soldiers who said "half his head was missing", but he was not dead: he regained consciousness on March 13, the day peace was declared. Shortly after the war, Häyhä was promoted from Alikersantti (Corporal) to Vänrikki (Second Lieutenant) by Field Marshal Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim. No one else has gained rank so quickly in Finland's military history.
06-21-2012, 09:33 PM #6
I was over in Finland a few years ago and spent a good bit of time in Winter War exhibits...they are still very proud and rightfully so. I loved this photo...so haunting:
06-21-2012, 10:11 PM #7
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- Red Sox Nation
The Finns whom I've met, done business with, and drank with, were badasses. Rough around the edges, very direct, and smart. Good people. They have a lot to be proud of.
06-21-2012, 10:23 PM #8JoseGuest
Badass of the Week: Simo Hayha
Throughout this campaign, Häyhä basically just ran around doling out head-shots like the ice cream man gives out Dove bars on a hot sunny day in the Sahara desert. His personal best was ****ing twenty-five kills in a single day. That's like an entire baseball team.
Throughout the Winter War (as it would come to be known), Simo Häyhä ran around being what experienced HALO players would call a "camping fag", and scoring enough kill shots to make ****ing RoboCop and the Terminator hide their heads in shame.
06-21-2012, 10:41 PM #9
In Vietnam our soldiers got stabbed in the back by a large percentage of the US population - how can you fight a war if your own country does not have the balls to stand up against liberal losers and hippies?
In Afghanistan we are more and more concerned about not to offend anybody, not to destroy too much and all that crap. It's either war or not - so finish them and be done with it...or get the f out.
Don't think the Soviet Union in WWII had to deal with that crap - which makes Finlands victory even more remarkable.When a good shooter with a poor gun meets a poor shooter with a good gun, the good shooter will have the good gun...
If you choose the warrior's path, then you will have realized, that it is the man and not the gun that makes the difference. Gabe Suarez
06-21-2012, 10:43 PM #10NRA, GOAL, Comm2A, SAF, JPFO, GOA, WSC
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