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    Maine Gun Owners Association Inc
    PO Box 373
    Yarmouth, ME 04096
    207-846-3000
    Jeff Weinstein, President
    George Fogg, Vice President
    Hal Fairfield, Secretary/Treasurer

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    the gentleman that runs MGOA is the same one that was pushing for more restrictions on concealed permits . The bill he proposed would have required taking a training class for the initial concealed permit , and again before each renewal . It also would strike down the ability to use a DD214 in place of a training class . He just happens to give those classes , and out of the kindness of his heart , would train trainers (for a fee of course) .

    For a "pro rights" org , it seems awfully willing to impose more restrictions on Mainers . Hearing this man speak at the hearing , he almost sounded like he could have been a Brady member .

    The Maine Gun Owners Association is sponsoring LD-778, "An Act To Enhance The Qualifications for a (Maine) Concealed Firearms Permit".
    There's quite a conflict of interest when proposing a bill to require training classes , that just happen to be given (for a fee) by ones self .
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    I don't think it was so much the organization pushing for the legislation, as the one guy who happened to be the president of the organization. I think I saw one reply by him here. Some people wrote some real nastygrams, but I don't know how many (if any) were MGOA members. The whole thread seems to have died out by last March.
    Y'know, it's one of those real "rock vs. hard place" situations. There was one post in the above forum (probably not by a gun owner) to the effect of "I don't see how it can hurt. A little education is a good thing." But another one says "This bill would require a former military small arms champion to take [the] course."

    Let's ignore for the moment the conflict of interest part. We want to show that we're responsible gun owners, but any new legislation we even "go along with" can be one more inch of the camel's nose shoved into the tent. "You all agreed that proving you know safe gun handling in order to get your license wasn't a bad idea. Why won't you go along with having serial numbers etched on all your ammunition? It's for the children, you know." {hoss manure smiley here}

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    It's one of the crappier websites out there, too. Looks like the ones I built back in the mid 90's.

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    I don't think it was so much the organization pushing for the legislation, as the one guy who happened to be the president of the organization
    You are correct , but , while speaking at the state house he made sure that our reps knew he was the head of MGOA . He did not disassociate himself from the org and say it was an individual cause . To someone in the room , it appeared to be that MGOA was 100% behind the bill .

    I don't know how/where others got their info . I am simply speaking of what I saw/heard at the actual hearing for the bill . Words straight from the mouth of the man .

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    I meant to say something about that, his giving the appearance that it was by consensus of the organization, or at least by its executive board. I'm a little surprised the rest of the officers went along with that, or seemed to anyway. I'm sure there were members who weren't happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meanie-14 View Post
    I don't think it was so much the organization pushing for the legislation, as the one guy who happened to be the president of the organization. I think I saw one reply by him here. Some people wrote some real nastygrams, but I don't know how many (if any) were MGOA members. The whole thread seems to have died out by last March.
    Y'know, it's one of those real "rock vs. hard place" situations. There was one post in the above forum (probably not by a gun owner) to the effect of "I don't see how it can hurt. A little education is a good thing." But another one says "This bill would require a former military small arms champion to take [the] course."

    Let's ignore for the moment the conflict of interest part. We want to show that we're responsible gun owners, but any new legislation we even "go along with" can be one more inch of the camel's nose shoved into the tent. "You all agreed that proving you know safe gun handling in order to get your license wasn't a bad idea. Why won't you go along with having serial numbers etched on all your ammunition? It's for the children, you know." {hoss manure smiley here}
    I can't believe what I read on that forum...

    Looks like a lot of Fudds to me.
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    Look , all one has to do is think ....

    Who gains from this law?
    What supposed problem does this law propose to fix or alleviate ?
    Does it further restrict a right ?

    MGOA could be a good group for Mainers , but not when it's leader(s) propose laws that essentially would put them personally at a great financial gain , while making it harder for Maine gun owners .

    Just my opinion from observation . YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptmmatssc View Post
    MGOA could be a good group for Mainers , but not when it's leader(s) propose laws that essentially would put them personally at a great financial gain , while making it harder for Maine gun owners .
    I don't disagree with ya. I'm just a little surprised the other officers and members didn't land on Mr. Prez. Maybe they didn't have time to call an emergency meeting and ask him "What the hell were you thinking?" Or he got enough of them convinced that it was the right thing to do.
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    The members should be demanding his resignation.
    “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny”

    “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”

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