MA: Identifying Pre-Ban Glock Mags

**drgrant** · 01-31-2012, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by PATRON

I look at it this way I have 10 round magazine for my glock 19 you should always carry a spare mag. So that makes it 20 rounds.That way I do not have to worry if they are post-ban, pre-ban or ray-ban.

Carrying a G19 with a cripple in it is kinda pointless, but that's just me. If I was that worried about the mag BS, I would just carry a single stack (whatever) and be done with it.

-Mike

**Reptile** · 02-03-2012, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jim-22

Wow! What a mess. After reading 34 pages of much wondering off-topic and many other links I think it is worthwhile to make a summary. The following pertains to Glock magazines holding more than 10 rounds:

1) Rounded lip NFML, pre-ban MA legal.
2) Non-raised caliber markings, pre-ban MA legal.
3) Raised caliber markings with nothing else, may or may not be pre-ban as there is documented evidence that they were produced both pre- and post-ban. There is just no way to tell. Most people would therefore conclude that it is OK to possess these in MA.
4) LE/govt only, post-ban MA illegal.
5) Gen 4 double notched for dual release, post-ban MA illegal.

That about sums it up- except on thing to add...

Don't forget that mags that have the ambi cut out in the front - NOT the gen 4 ambi - are also post ban.

The original G21sf used to have an ambi magazine. It was a different type of catch that was built into the front of the mag as a plastic cut out. It has been discontinued.

Mags for other calibers were made with this G21sf type ambi cut out even though no guns besides the first G21sf had that type of ambi mag release.

**BeerBaron** · 02-06-2012, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Jim-22

Wow! What a mess. After reading 34 pages of much wondering off-topic and many other links I think it is worthwhile to make a summary. The following pertains to Glock magazines holding more than 10 rounds:

1) Rounded lip NFML, pre-ban MA legal.
2) Non-raised caliber markings, pre-ban MA legal.
3) Raised caliber markings with nothing else, may or may not be pre-ban as there is documented evidence that they were produced both pre- and post-ban. There is just no way to tell. Most people would therefore conclude that it is OK to possess these in MA.
4) LE/govt only, post-ban MA illegal.
5) Gen 4 double notched for dual release, post-ban MA illegal.

How about some clarification on Point #4, "LE/govt only" labeled mags, does that apply to such labeled mags that hold 10 or less rounds? I have seen 9 rounders that says LE/GOVT ONLY in stores. Legal or Illegal?

**drgrant** · 02-06-2012, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

How about some clarification on Point #4, "LE/govt only" labeled mags, does that apply to such labeled mags that hold 10 or less rounds? I have seen 9 rounders that says LE/GOVT ONLY in stores. Legal or Illegal?

Those were probably G27 mags that had +2 basepads on them or something.

Although it won't mean anything (because the mag holds 10 rounds, or less, as configured) frankly I would never want an "LE only" marked anything in MA.

-Mike

**LenS** · 02-06-2012, 03:46 PM

I'm with Mike.

**slugworth** · 03-11-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Fsorrent

My take on it is simple:

My mags don't explicitly state LEO only, therefore I use em. There aren't any dates, or any sufficient evidence that would indicate a magazines date of manufacture. Also, GLOCK themselves have been quoted stated "there is no real way to tell". Carry on! My license allows for the carrying of hi-capacity magazines. So long as there is no proof that the magazines I am carrying are illegal (post 94), it's safe to assume they are legal unless proven otherwise.

What if your Glock was made "98" and you have a class A Hicap permit? Is it still ok to have these 15rd mags?

**bostonasphalt2** · 03-11-2012, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by slugworth

What if your Glock was made "98" and you have a class A Hicap permit? Is it still ok to have these 15rd mags?

When the fun was made has no bearing on how the AWB affects high cap mags. You could have a brand new glock and so long as your high cap mags were made before the AWB, you would be fine. You could have the oldest glock ever, and so long as the high cap mags were made before the AWB, you are fine. The guns manufacturing date has no bearing whether you can have the mags or not.

**Boman** · 03-17-2012, 09:30 AM

Meh,

This entire thread completely confused me.

I have a pre ban Glock 19. I have seen the 15 round clips at Cabelas in CT and my brother who lives in VT knows a gun shop that has them. I was about to purchase 3 more clips but now am left thinking they will be illegal.

**jamis** · 03-19-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Boman

Meh,

This entire thread completely confused me.

I have a pre ban Glock 19. I have seen the 15 round clips at Cabelas in CT and my brother who lives in VT knows a gun shop that has them. I was about to purchase 3 more clips but now am left thinking they will be illegal.

They will be illegal in MA.

The hi-cap MAGAZINE has to be manufactured prior to the magic date in 1994. It doesn't matter when the gun was made.

**CrackPot** · 03-19-2012, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Boman

Meh,

This entire thread completely confused me.

I have a pre ban Glock 19. I have seen the 15 round clips at Cabelas in CT and my brother who lives in VT knows a gun shop that has them. I was about to purchase 3 more clips but now am left thinking they will be illegal.

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