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Safe in trunk
This is a discussion on Safe in trunk within the Massachusetts Laws forums, part of the Gun Laws category; I'm thinking of putting a small safe in the trunk of my car. I was going to only use it ...
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12-10-2006, 09:55 AM #1Registered User
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Safe in trunk
I'm thinking of putting a small safe in the trunk of my car. I was going to only use it for handguns back and forth to the range.
A lot of times I like to bring more than one with me to the range and a safe would allow me to stop at different places like stores and resturants knowing they were secure.
I don't think I would have to lag it down, the safe in it's own right should meet all laws if I disable the automatic trunk release in the passenger part of the car, using the valet switch.
Would I be complying with all laws in transporting firearms in this manner.
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12-10-2006, 10:08 AM #2Attorney
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A safe may be lawfully used for firearms storage in a vehicle in Massachusetts so long as the guns are unloaded and the safe is properly locked.
There is no requirement that the safe be bolted to the vehicle's trunk."We arm folks and supply cases of ammo to the landed gentry!"
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12-10-2006, 10:32 AM #3Moderator
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If you do 'lag it down', watch out for the gas tank!
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12-10-2006, 10:46 AM #4Registered User
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I was also thnking that no one could make me open it with out a warrent. It's a real safe so I can't drill through it.
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Is that true? A warrent is needed to open a safe which is in the trunk. I would like to know the answer to that.
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12-10-2006, 05:48 PM #7Moderator
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Well, maybe you can't drill through it, but a locksmith certainly knows how
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12-10-2006, 06:04 PM #8Moderator
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Well, theres this little thing called the 4th amendment. They'd Originally Posted by squeeze
have to get consent to search (from the owner, assuming
the PD is non corrupt). If they're corrupt, or they get a court order/warrant,
they're just going to do whatever they want anyways, safe or no safe.
I believe theres also an end-around that lets them do whatever they want if
they have "reasonable suspicion" or something to that effect. Some of the
resident lawyers can clarify. It's very complicated WRT "Terry" stops and the like.
I don't really know if the safe changes anything. About the only thing
it might help with, is if the LEO is dirty, without you divulging the combination
he's likely going to have to get external assistance to open it, which means
that now, more people will become involved.
-Mike
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12-10-2006, 09:18 PM #9Registered User
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The way I look at is a police officer has no reason to search my car, trunk or any thing else.
I don't drink, smoke pot, sell crack or do heroin. My car is brand new, inspected, registered, clean with no beer bottles rattling around or roaches in the ash tray.
I'm polite and respectfull and my license is valid. In short I'm a boring old guy. But I won't put up with any one violating my rights.
If some one wants to search my car their going to have to work for it.
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I was also thnking that no one could make me open it with out a warrent. It's a real safe so I can't drill through it.
If the Police have probable cause to search your vehicle,then they can search the entire vehicle and all its contents. I believe its called the caroll doctrine /Mv exception. Provided the vehicle is on a public way.
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