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MSP transitioning to M&P45?

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    Heard a rumor that MSP is transitioning to M&P 45s, as well as the Vemont State Police. Anyone else hear this? Maybe it'll push S&W into getting the M&P45c MA Compliant.

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    FYI
    Still in the fact finding stage. STOP team is looking into single action 45 (ACP) as well.

    RFI = Request For Information

    "1. Introduction
    The purpose of this RFI is to elicit the response of knowledgeable persons in the vendor community to enable the Massachusetts State Police (MSP) to select a semi-automatic pistol chambered for the .45 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) caliber for general duty use. The .45 ACP is an effective pistol cartridge that combines accuracy and stopping power. The cartridge offers relatively low muzzle blast and flash, as well as moderate recoil. The .45 ACP also operates at a relatively low maximum chamber pressure rating which helps extend the service life of weapons it is fired in. The .45 caliber ACP semi-automatic pistol that is selected will be utilized as the main duty weapon of the MSP. Responses to this RFI should include information that will be useful to the MSP in drafting more detailed procurement solicitations related to future pistol acquisition.
    2. Agency
    The Massachusetts State Police is contemplating a transition from the .40 caliber semi-automatic pistol currently carried, to a .45 ACP semi-automatic pistol.
    3. Purpose of RFI
    The purpose of the RFI is to solicit information pertaining to .45 ACP semi-automatic pistols. Emerging trends indicate that other law enforcement agencies have opted to utilize this caliber of pistol as a more effective weapon. This RFI solicitation seeks responses from vendors who can offer information about the .45 ACP semi-automatic pistol which meets the criteria and objectives detailed below.
    4. Information Solicited
    In order to determine the most viable .45 ACP semi-automatic pistol option, this RFI requests vendors respond to the following:
    A. Questions
    i. What models and configurations of .45 ACP semi-automatic pistols are offered (i.e. full size, compact, sub-compact, barrel length, etc.)?
    ii. What ergonomic and/or ambidextrous features are available on the pistol or pistols offered?
    iii. Where are the pistols manufactured?
    iv. From what materials are the pistols manufactured (i.e. steel, alloys, polymer, etc.)?
    v. Where are the various major internal components for the pistols manufactured?
    vi. What is the magazine capacity of the pistol or pistols offered?
    vii. What is the expected service life (in number of rounds fired) of the pistol or pistols offered?
    viii. Are there agencies currently utilizing the pistol or pistols offered that can independently verify reliability, endurance, durability, and manufacturer service and support?"
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    They didn't ask about features like magazine disconnect or chamber load indicator. The AG and Consumer Safety need to tell the MSP how important these features are!

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    What do they have now, Sig 226 in .40 maybe? Sig doesn't make a .45 anymore do they, other than their 1911?
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    MSP issues Sig P226 in .40 for most units, with some P229s and even P239s going to specialized troopers. Sig still makes the P220 .45 which is carried by a few departments, but it only comes with an 8 round mag. New Hampshire State Police dumped the P220 for M&P45s...MSP might be thinking of doing the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S. Kelly View Post
    Heard a rumor that MSP is transitioning to M&P 45s, as well as the Vemont State Police. Anyone else hear this? Maybe it'll push S&W into getting the M&P45c MA Compliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S. Kelly View Post
    Heard a rumor that MSP is transitioning to M&P 45s, as well as the Vemont State Police. Anyone else hear this? Maybe it'll push S&W into getting the M&P45c MA Compliant.
    Yup, I heard it... from an MSP armorer with 5, count 'em, five, sequentially serial-numbered M&P 45s that he was test-firing out at Harvard last summer.
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    Sorry, forgot that thread (MichaelJR was posting so I ignored it), but I was at our Dept range and a few guys and a S&W guy were talking about it. They also stated their STOP team went to the S&W 1911 E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S. Kelly View Post
    They also stated their STOP team went to the S&W 1911 E.
    Over at the 10-8forums, someone posted that the STOP team has already ordered 50 of the 1911 Es -- the version with a rail.

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    MY S&W rep told me the stop team thing is a done deal,already have the guns. I know a guy at my gym is on the stop team Ill ask him next time I see him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another_David View Post
    What do they have now, Sig 226 in .40 maybe? Sig doesn't make a .45 anymore do they, other than their 1911?
    Sig makes multiple variants of the P220 in .45. Good luck to them though, their QC record in the recent past has been less than stellar.

    IIRC a few years ago NH SP dumped the P220-ST and moved to the M+P.

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