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Compliance Inspection
This is a discussion on Compliance Inspection within the Gun Laws forums, part of the General category; I got a voice mail from someone from the Boston office of the BATFE. As part of my C&R renewal ...
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11-28-2008, 06:14 PM #1NES Member
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Compliance Inspection
I got a voice mail from someone from the Boston office of the BATFE. As part of my C&R renewal process they need to do a "compliance exam". Has anyone else ever had this?
I'm just trying to figure out what to expect. I have all my records in order, at least it seems so.Experience is a harsh teacher. It gives the exam first and then the lesson.
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11-30-2008, 12:36 AM #2NES Member
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They pull it on some people, probably randomly. Just make sure your books are in order. They'll probably let you bring the books into their office.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and thus any interpretation or statements about the law that I might make should be taken with a grain of salt and mixed with your own legal research as well as advice from actual legal counsel. I cannot be held responsible if you find yourself somebody's "friend" in federal, state, or local prison should you act on my opinions on the law. My interpretations of the law will generally be on the conservative side.
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11-30-2008, 12:55 AM #3NES Member
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I had a "compliance inspection" when I had an FFL01. They usually want to come to the licensed premises and see the hardware as well as the paperwork.
Originally Posted by vellnueve
In any event, do be certain that everything is ... in compliance.
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.
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11-30-2008, 05:50 AM #4Instructor
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You have the option of scheduling the C&R compliance check outside of your home. Just call to make the appointment. You may have to bring your C&R items with you (along with your records) but it sure is better than having them come to your home.
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11-30-2008, 09:17 AM #5NES Member
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Thanks. I have a pretty small number of items purchased with my C&R. A good number of C&R eligible items were purchased from FFLs or in once case FTF. All of the state paperwork was done, I've kept my bound book and personal firearms record book current. I don't foresee any problems, really. I just wanted to ask if anyone else had had the experience.
Experience is a harsh teacher. It gives the exam first and then the lesson.
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11-30-2008, 10:18 AM #6Banned
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How can they require you to bring your C&R items with you? AFAIK the closest one to me is in Boston. The BATFE couldn't give me a letter signed by the President of the United States of America to get me to bring my C&Rs into Boston. I was always told for a C&R they only want to see the records. Originally Posted by Mil-Dot
If they ever bring up a inspection on me and it has to be at my house, I hope it is on the coldest day of the year and I'm going to make them stand in the middle of my lawn doing their business.
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11-30-2008, 04:13 PM #7NES Member
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Disagree. When my dad got a compliance inspection with his FF01, they did come to the premises, but didn't look at the guns, just the book. Originally Posted by theGringo
I had a "compliance inspection" when I had an FFL01. They usually want to come to the licensed premises and see the hardware as well as the paperwork.
In any event, do be certain that everything is ... in compliance.Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and thus any interpretation or statements about the law that I might make should be taken with a grain of salt and mixed with your own legal research as well as advice from actual legal counsel. I cannot be held responsible if you find yourself somebody's "friend" in federal, state, or local prison should you act on my opinions on the law. My interpretations of the law will generally be on the conservative side.
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11-30-2008, 04:14 PM #8NES Member
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Wrong, if they do it at the ATF office they just want to see the books. It's a records check, not a firearms check. Originally Posted by Mil-Dot
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11-30-2008, 04:23 PM #9NES Member
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I guess they gave me "the treatment". The ATF agent even brought a Worcester cop with hime, which was considered a very controversial move at that time. Originally Posted by vellnueve
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.
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11-30-2008, 06:24 PM #10NES Member
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01 compliance checks are VERY different from 03 compliance checks, at least in theory.
01s get inspected at their BUSINESS location. 03s have the option of requesting it be done at the BATFE office.
So, unless they are looking for something very specific (e.g. stolen gun, questionable source of gun, etc.) they likely will do a records only check at their local office.
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