9mm VS a Bear

Originally Posted by JohnM

Okay, enough of this 9mm talk, THIS is what you really need for a damn bear!

A Pfeifer-Zeliska .600 Nitro Express Magnum

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Good man, I like

Originally Posted by jkelly

I'd feel safer with the 9mm.

Respectfully,
jkelly

You may feel safer, but statistically, in a full on bear attack, you'd be more likely to be killed than if you had pepper spray...

Originally Posted by Tooth

I agree a slow tasty fat freind would be a better option.

LOL "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you..."

You guys got it all wrong. Even a .22 is effective enough if you know one simple trick: Wait 'til you're inside the bear before you shoot it.

Originally Posted by JohnM

Okay, enough of this 9mm talk, THIS is what you really need for a damn bear!

A Pfeifer-Zeliska .600 Nitro Express Magnum

YEah that would do it!

I guess if you are of the camp that thinks that bears are big and slow, and make a lot of noise so you know they are coming, and never eat people, go with the 9 mm!

If you think bears travel like ghosts in the woods, run 4 X faster than you, are ALWAYS looking for food and will sometimes chow down on hunter hank, the biggest gun you have is not too big. I personally prefer the .454 with hardcast bullets.

Picked up a can of "frontiersman bear attack deterrent" up at Kittery last weekend, $39.95. It is good to have if you are calling in bears during hunting season, and accidently call in a runt or a mama with some cubs and do not want to shoot.

If I were an anti and camping up in the whites, I would DEFINITELY be packing one of these cans! And, of course, not be sporting any food in the tent and hanging my pack between two trees!

Originally Posted by dingbat

You guys got it all wrong. Even a .22 is effective enough if you know one simple trick: Wait 'til you're inside the bear before you shoot it.

+1 right on! But always carry a backup knife too, just in case your arm holding the .22 is ripped off before you're eaten! Then you can cut your way out if necessary!

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Words of wisdom:

Black Bear
There are only about thirty documented cases of black bears actively stalking humans for the purpose of killing them for food. The last such case was recorded in the spring of 2000 in Great Smoky Mountains National Park. In almost all these cases these attacks have involved male bears of unusual size. Although black bears average around two-hundred to three-hundred pounds, males have been found that exceed five-hundred pounds in some cases. It is the abnormally large black bears that account for almost all the incidents of hunting humans.
Remain calm. Fall to the ground laying on your stomach. Clasp your hands over your neck and put your arms out so your elbows are on the ground, spread your legs so your feet are apart. This will make it harder for the bear to roll you over and will make it easier to roll back over if it does. If the black bear persists in an attack you should fight back. In cases of black bear attack fighting back and making a lot of noise has caused attacks to break off.


Black Bear or Brown Bear Sow With Cubs

A bear can be a ferocious predator, and a sow with cubs is no exception. Female bears who feel threatened result in most bear attacks. Fortunately most of these encounters do not prove to be fatal. Female bears with sows are only interested in removing the threat and protecting their cubs.

Remain calm and quiet. Fall to the ground laying on your stomach. Clasp your hands over your neck and put your arms out so your elbows are on the ground, spread your legs so your feet are apart. Play dead and do not make a sound, do not fight back. Most sow attacks when cubs are involved are only to frighten away a perceived threat. Fighting back or making noise will only aggravate the bear in most cases. In the case of a female black bear, if playing dead is not working, then you should fight back. In cases of black bear attacks fighting back as a last resort has been very effective. When the attack is over continue to lie still until you are sure the bear is gone. Carefully and slowly get up, and back away from the direction you came. There have been documented cases of multiple attacks by the same bear because the victim got up to soon and/or ran after the attack.

Originally Posted by Supermoto

The general consensus in bear attacks is that if you have 6 rounds available. fire 5, leave the last one for yourself

thats a great one save the last round for yourself heh ,if thats the only gun you carry best fill it up with 9mm NATO rounds or find a 9mm fmj that is well over 1200 to 1400 fps you should stop the bear if you empty the clip make sure you have another full clip ready if it dont bleed to death. u dont have to kill it but you might be able to deter it .a 9mm with 2 full clips of NATO rounds will do alot better then spice up the bear with pepper mace.