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This is a discussion on Firearm Grading within the Firearms forums, part of the Hardware category; You can't always rely on these grading standards when buying a used firearm, but please try to adhere to them ...

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    Exclamation Firearm Grading

    You can't always rely on these grading standards when buying a used firearm, but please try to adhere to them when posting one here for sale or trade.




    NRA Standards of condition for modern firearms

    NEW: Not previously sold at retail, in same condition as current factory production.

    NEW DISCONTINUED: Same as NEW, but discontinued model.

    PERFECT: In new condition in every respect. Sometimes referred to as "mint".

    EXCELLENT: New condition, used very little, no noticeable marring of wood or metal, bluing perfect (except at muzzle or sharp edges).

    VERY GOOD: In perfect working condition, no appreciable wear on working surfaces, no corrosion or pitting, only minor surface dents or scratches.

    GOOD: In safe working condition, minor wear on working surfaces, no broken parts, no corrosion or pitting that will interfere with proper functioning.

    FAIR: In safe working condition, but well worn, perhaps requiring replacement of minor parts or adjustments, that should be indicated in advertisement; no rust, but may have corrosion pits that do render the gun unsafe or inoperable.

    POOR: Badly worn, rusty and battered, perhaps requiring major adjustment or repairs to place in operating condition.




    NRA standards of condition for antique firearms

    FACTORY NEW: All original parts, 100% original finish, in perfect condition in every respect, inside and out.

    EXCELLENT: All original parts, over 80% original finish, sharp lettering, numerals and design on metal and wood, minor marks in wood, good bore.

    FINE: All original parts, over 30% original finish, sharp lettering, numerals and design on metal and wood, minor marks in wood, good bore.

    VERY GOOD: all original parts, none to 30% original finish, original metal surfaces smooth with all edges sharp, clear lettering, numerals and design on metal, wood slightly scratched or bruised, bore disregarded for collectors firearms.

    GOOD: Some minor replacement parts, metal smoothly rusted or lightly pitted in places, cleaned or reblued, principal lettering, numerals and design on metal legible, wood refinished, scratched, bruised or minor cracks repaired, in good working order.

    FAIR: Some major parts replaced, minor replacement parts may be required, metal rusted, may be lightly pitted all over, vigorously cleaned or reblued, rounded edges of metal and wood, principal lettering, numerals and design on metal partly obliterated, wood scratched, bruised, cracked or repaired where broken, in fair working order or can be easily repaired and placed in working order.

    POOR: Major and minor parts replaced, major replacement parts required and extensive restoration needed, metal deeply pitted, principal lettering, numerals and design obliterated, wood badly scratched, bruised, cracked or broken, mechanically inoperative, generally undesirable as a collectors firearm.


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    Thanks,

    That clears up quite a bit.

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    The tricky part comes with coming to an agreement as to grading, and knowing if a particular gun in your particular market is selling for more, or less, than the bluebook suggests.
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    Ken, this might be a dumb question, but how could someone have a gun to sell here if it wasn't previously sold at retail?

    No matter how many times it's been sold, if it has never been used, and is in pristine shape, with all paperwork and accessories that came with it, isn't it still a "NEW" gun?

    Same for NEW DISCONTINUED, say a model 29-2 new in box. To have it someone would have had to buy it at retail sometime, right?
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    I think that they make the distinction that once it is sold, it can NOT be represented as "new" but must use another grade ("perfect").

    I've seen this before on other things (non-firearms) in standard grading of items.
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    Thanks Len. So does that mean a person selling a NEW gun here must be a dealer or someone who got the gun wholesale?

    That doesn't seem to make any sense.
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    It means that we "REQUEST" that folks on NES use the NRA grading system.

    It's kinda like "herding cats" to get NES'rs to follow any sort of rules however, so caveat emptor is in full play.
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