• It's time for Baker or Cahill to take a stand on the Second Amendment.

    As this election year approaches we need one of these candidates to step up and make a stand.

    Both are giving generic, innocuous statements but neither will go into detail as to what their stance is on the Second Amendment.




    This makes no sense, especially from Mr. Baker. Does he really think he'll lose any votes if he comes out as being pro 2A? He truly has everything to gain and nothing to lose by doing so, which makes me question not only his integrity, but also his real stance on the Second Amendment.

    Please contact them, urge them to begin a dialog with GOAL and voters in general, let them know, there are less than 100 days to the election, and this is a critical issue to many voters in the commonwealth.

    Contact Charlie



    UPDATE 8-23-2010 from GOAL

    Just received Tim Cahill's questionnaire, he scored a 98%.

    Charlie Baker has finally stepped up and taken our questionnaire, he received a 94% grade.





    This article was originally published in forum thread: It's time for Baker or Cahill to take a stand on the Second Amendment. started by derek View original post
    Comments 42 Comments
    1. Billsail's Avatar
      Billsail -
      I contacted both, a while ago, and received the same generic response: "I stand for the constitution, gun rights, hunting tradition, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah! I call ! Don't ask me...I couldn't tell you where they stand...

      Bill
    1. Palladin's Avatar
      Palladin -
      Done.

      Let's see what they come back with
    1. GunGuy's Avatar
      GunGuy -
      For some reason, I don't trust Baker. We will see what response we get from them. In my mind it is a race between the two. Deval really shot himself in the foot with this casino bill. Even his biggest butt kisser's, I mean supporters, in the legislation are separating themselves from him.
    1. GM-GUY's Avatar
      GM-GUY -
      I asked Tim:
      "Regarding Gun Control, where do you stand? EXACTLY, not some wishy-washy statement; I am so tired of that from politicians.

      I currently stand at (0% Patrick) (30% Baker) (30% Cahill) and (40% Undecided) in my expected vote."

      I got back:
      "Regarding your question on the Second Amendment; Treasurer Cahill strongly supports the right of citizens to bear arms. That being said he does also support some reasonable restrictions to help keep guns out of the wrong hands such as child safety locks and mandatory background checks."

      THE SAME THING THAT IS ON THEIR WEB SITE

      They also said "I hope this answered your question"

      I'll reply and tell them no it did not and give some examples, and see what I get.

      I HATE POLITICIANS


      On not trusting Baker - I don't trust any politican, after the last 5 years, I don't now how anyone can.
    1. yanici's Avatar
      yanici -
      Quote Originally Posted by GM-GUY View Post
      I asked Tim:
      "Regarding Gun Control, where do you stand? EXACTLY, not some wishy-washy statement; I am so tired of that from politicians.

      I currently stand at (0% Patrick) (30% Baker) (30% Cahill) and (40% Undecided) in my expected vote."

      I got back:
      "Regarding your question on the Second Amendment; Treasurer Cahill strongly supports the right of citizens to bear arms. That being said he does also support some reasonable restrictions to help keep guns out of the wrong hands such as child safety locks and mandatory background checks."

      THE SAME THING THAT IS ON THEIR WEB SITE

      They also said "I hope this answered your question"

      I'll reply and tell them no it did not and give some examples, and see what I get.

      I HATE POLITICIANS
      I can easily see how frustrating it can be when you get those generic answers. Not trying to crap up this thread, but that's the reason why I'm backing Jamison Tomasek in the Republican primary in my district. If you go to his web page he is specific in his 2A stance and is a supporter of H2259.

      We need straight answers not rhetoric but I guess you won't see it, at least not pubicly.
    1. murphy's Avatar
      murphy -
      Just emailed both, lets see if they respond.
    1. LenS's Avatar
      LenS -
      Charlie Baker promised me Saturday evening that he and his staff would be answering GOAL's questionnaire on this Monday.

      Waiting with baited breath.
    1. yanici's Avatar
      yanici -
      Quote Originally Posted by LenS View Post
      Charlie Baker promised me Saturday evening that he and his staff would be answering GOAL's questionnaire on this Monday.

      Waiting with baited breath.
      Ahhh! But will they drink truth serum before filling in the blanks?
    1. LenS's Avatar
      LenS -
      Quote Originally Posted by yanici View Post
      Ahhh! But will they drink truth serum before filling in the blanks?
      We could only wish!!
    1. Blooglo's Avatar
      Blooglo -
      Maybe the test should be a test of fire(power)! Let's see which of them will show up for, and shoot, a CMP match and be willing to be photographed with rifle and target.

      A true 2A supporter should have no problem with that.
    1. GOAL C.M.'s Avatar
      GOAL C.M. -
      Check one off the list, just received Tim Cahill's questionnaire, he scored a 98%.

      Waiting on Mr. Baker.
    1. PennyPincher's Avatar
      PennyPincher -
      This was my email to Charlie Baker:

      >> What is your position on gun control, the second amendment and this state's current gun laws and enforcement of them?

      Do you support an individuals right to have and carry a gun?
      Do you support a person's right to use a gun in defense of themselves, others, and their property?

      If elected Governor, will you push to put more restrictions on honest citizens by making more gun control laws or would you help eliminate some of the cumbersome and discretionary policies we have in place now?

      Here is his response:
      Dear Debra,

      Thank you for taking the time to send me your question.

      I support the second amendment and I believe the state needs to do a better job of enforcing the laws that we have, and treating the commission of a crime with a gun as the serious offense that it is. The state must spend more time prosecuting the criminals with guns and less time on the responsible gun owners.

      I appreciate your taking the time to send me your thoughts on this issue and I encourage you to continue to send me your ideas in the months to come. Please continue to monitor my website for additional information about my policies. I look forward to hearing from you again.

      Charlie

      Not exactly as strong as some of would like I am sure.
      Now we need to hold his feet to the fire if he is elected.
    1. GM-GUY's Avatar
      GM-GUY -
      I got a copy of that same response from Baker, at least we got a response, he doesn't even have it (2A) mentioned on his site.

      I am waiting for his response to GOAL questionaire also, currently Cahill is in the lead at 40% of how I would vote today.
    1. BigMike's Avatar
      BigMike -
      http://audio.wrko.com/m/audio/332005...-in-studio.htm



      ALL GO LISTEN NOW

      it's get's relevant at the 0.17:45 mark
    1. murphy's Avatar
      murphy -
      Not impressed with the message from either that I recieved. Niether seems to be strong on the subject.

      Quote Originally Posted by PennyPincher View Post
      This was my email to Charlie Baker:

      >> What is your position on gun control, the second amendment and this state's current gun laws and enforcement of them?

      Do you support an individuals right to have and carry a gun?
      Do you support a person's right to use a gun in defense of themselves, others, and their property?

      If elected Governor, will you push to put more restrictions on honest citizens by making more gun control laws or would you help eliminate some of the cumbersome and discretionary policies we have in place now?

      Here is his response:
      Dear Debra,

      Thank you for taking the time to send me your question.

      I support the second amendment and I believe the state needs to do a better job of enforcing the laws that we have, and treating the commission of a crime with a gun as the serious offense that it is. The state must spend more time prosecuting the criminals with guns and less time on the responsible gun owners.

      I appreciate your taking the time to send me your thoughts on this issue and I encourage you to continue to send me your ideas in the months to come. Please continue to monitor my website for additional information about my policies. I look forward to hearing from you again.

      Charlie

      Not exactly as strong as some of would like I am sure.
      Now we need to hold his feet to the fire if he is elected.
    1. drgrant's Avatar
      drgrant -
      He doesn't care about us. He's running on the "So what if my answer sucks? What are you doing to do, vote for Deval?" platform.

      -Mike
    1. CaptDan3's Avatar
      CaptDan3 -
      Just remember a Vote for Cahill is a vote for Deval. Cahill is jumping on the greande to take votes away from Baker. Then when Deval wins, Cahill will be taken care of by the Democrat Party with a nice soft well paid job.
      Don't be fooled we all have to sopport Charlie Baker.....he sucks less.


      Dan Long
      Boston
    1. Colbycobra22's Avatar
      Colbycobra22 -
      I emailed both and still haven't gotten a response... politics are afraid of the 2A...automobile deaths have been greater then firearms related deaths 2years in a row. Obama sucks too he was all about creating jobs but then turns around and says he wants to shut down gun factories and gun stores over more then half and how many people would be out of a job them? They are all two-faced and none of them have any of my trust...I trust you guys on this site more then any of them and I only know four people on this site. What we need to do is get someone on this site into politics and everyone toss in money and all of our votes should be enough to make a difference or at least big enough they can't ignore it. I will update you guys when i get a response from either.

      -Colby
    1. GM-GUY's Avatar
      GM-GUY -
      CaptDan3: I hear what you are saying but I CANNOT HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTER FOR SOMEONE WHO SUCKS LESS ANYMORE. I hope the GOP, DEMS and everyone else heard that.

      After Bush I with 'Read my lips'
      and Clinton with NAFTA, the retro active tax increase,
      and Bush II with Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, and damn near Amnesty,
      and Obama with Socialize everything and spread the wealth around.

      (While not having voted for Clinton or Obama)
      THEY ALL SUCK EGGS. If candidates running against each other suck equally, I'll vote for Mickey Mouse first.

      While I'm not sure about Cahill, he appears to be the most forthcoming so far. Patrick is still at 0%, Baker is at 30% and Cahill is at 40% of my likely vote. I'll be looking harder at Cahill to see if he can get me to 50% as I need at least that to vote 'for' anyone.
    1. yanici's Avatar
      yanici -
      Well, we all have our opinions so here's mine. I simply refuse to cast my vote for Patrick or Cahill. I will not waste a vote that might help push Devil Patrick out onto the street. Baker will definately get my vote.
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