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b79holmes

06-04-2009, 06:34 PM

I think this is the place to start a Mass political question.

Recently there was an article in the Globe on the political future of Ms Coakley (don't say it!). From what I have seen she doesn't seem quite as evil as Reilly was towards gun owners.

Can't we find anyone to run for this office who isn't blatantly anti-gun?
I think we'd be way ahead with an Elmer Fudd duck hunter who can at least see the stupidity of laws like the one gun a month law purchase limit law.

Let's not waste time with Republicans either. I think we alienate more unenrolled voters on RKBA issues more than we help.

Does GOAL see anyone out on the horizon with future state elections?

Bill

M1911

06-04-2009, 08:27 PM

Recently there was an article in the Globe on the political future of Ms Coakley (don't say it!). From what I have seen she doesn't seem quite as evil as Reilly was towards gun owners.
I disagree. She is cut from the exact same cloth as Reilly. She is also a woman and not an alcoholic, so as a result she has far more clout than he ever did.

Can't we find anyone to run for this office who isn't blatantly anti-gun?
Run? Yes. Win? Unlikely.

joehaus

06-05-2009, 07:37 PM

Defeat her with her own words. "We try and discourage people from self help"

LoginName

06-05-2009, 07:54 PM

LenS

06-05-2009, 11:39 PM

We tried that last time... does the name Larry Frisoli (http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=3565931) ring a bell with anyone?

Larry was 100% with MA gun owners. Unfortunately his heart and enthusiasm wasn't into campaigning.

And also unfortunately (since I just Googled him to see what he's been up to), I just discovered that he passed away on July 2nd of last year [sad2]...

http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/archive/x833729224/Larry-Frisoli-former-city-councilor-and-lawyer-dies-at-57

Ouch, it said that he died "after a lengthy illness" . . . this is usually code for "cancer". Maybe that's why he didn't campaign very hard for the AG job. If that's the case, we can forgive him for not fighting for all of us, he was too busy fighting for his life.

Too bad, may he rest in peace.

b79holmes

06-12-2009, 01:53 PM

We tried that last time... does the name Larry Frisoli ring a bell with anyone?

Sorry but I had not heard of him.

I have not known anyone to run for anything higher than a town office. I wonder how you recruit someone to take this on?

Maybe we can start a write-in campaign for Darius [wink] ?

Bill

WILDCATT

06-14-2009, 10:31 AM

any one know Karen McNutt.she ran for AG and the great and glorious gun owners stiffed her.she retired as a Major NG JAG.and we had Gov King re member him best friend we had,gun owners stiffed him to.even Mitt Romney
with GOAL help was pro gun.he got stiffed and you got Patrick.why would any one run looking for backing by gun owners.[rolleyes][angry]

garandman

12-12-2009, 09:01 AM

Coakley was one of only two candidates who responded to my question on gun rights, and the only one to explicitly acknowledge the 2nd Amendment as an individual right.

Martha Coakley believes in responsible gun ownership and she respects that the Second Amendment grants citizens the right to keep and bear arms.

Throughout her 25 years in public service, Martha has worked to ensure the safety of the people of the Commonwealth. In her capacity as District Attorney and now as Attorney General, she has seen firsthand the ill effects of irresponsible gun ownership and thus she supports safety measures, background checks, and will work to keep guns out of the hands of children and felons.

You can say that's lip service: but it's lip service in our direction, relative to her opponents. Can you nay-sayers point to specific actions she has taken against gun ownership rights? There are some really partisan folks here and there seems to be some knee jerk response to anyone with a D after their names. I'm an Independent so I'm skeptical of any party candidate: I look at each candidate issue by issue. Scott Brown gets an A on gun rights but he's by no means the perfect candidate: who is? As McCain's mother said "Hold your nose" and make a choice.

If we are going to make progress in reversing the gun restrictions in this state, it is going to take a long time and constitute a lot of small steps.

She was the only D who didn't run as Ted Kennedy Jr. It may be that her nomination on the Democratic side represents a slight victory over the extreme policies of her opponents.

Glockaholic

12-12-2009, 09:08 AM

If Scott Brown does not win in January, you might see him run for AG, depending on what the public perception of him is.

If he has high negatives, or gets trounced, I suspect he will not run.

Glockaholic

12-12-2009, 09:11 AM

and Martha SCREWED the Amerault family for her own political gain.

I'm more worried about that than her position on 2A, where she, and everyone else, is parroting Heller. They have no choice but to issue a statement that she "respects" (not supports) the right to own a gun.

There are lots of laws I respect, but don't agree with.

garandman

12-12-2009, 09:15 AM

If Scott Brown does not win in January, you might see him run for AG, depending on what the public perception of him is.

If he has high negatives, or gets trounced, I suspect he will not run.That's an interesting idea. He's being talked up quite a bit, and referenced as "telegenic" and his National Guard experience is respected. Even though he's a JAG.

I play on an ancient men hockey team (over 50 league) and one of the guys there announced that "he was voting Republican next time." I think Coakley got a lot of women to turn out, and men split their votes. Now that it's down to two, we'll see.

and Martha SCREWED the Amerault family for her own political gain.

I'm more worried about that than her position on 2A, //Revisionist history. There were many doubts about what went on there and I never seen any "Free Tookie" signs. You have to fault Jane Swift every bit as much as Coakley and all the other politicians, since she refused to commute the sentence despite the unanimous vote of the parole board. They were all trying to CYA since this was in the midst of the Boston Archdiocese Priest abuse scandal.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020318/pollitt

overnor Swift made a big show of looking seriously and long at Gerald Amirault's case, but she failed to consider the central question, that of whether he was guilty of any crime. Indeed, Swift made Gerald's refusal to admit guilt and get treatment as a dangerous sexual predator a centerpiece of her decision--but why should an innocent man have to say he's guilty to get out of jail? Gerald has been a model prisoner: He's taken college courses, he has worked, he has a flawless record. He has the total support of his wife and children and a job lined up in anticipation of his release.

Swift claims that her main consideration was whether Amirault's sentence was in line with those of others convicted of similar crimes. She cited the case of Christopher Reardon, a lay Catholic church worker who pled guilty to seventy-five criminal counts of abusing twenty-nine boys last summer and received a forty-to-fifty-year sentence. But the case against Reardon was open and shut; he took photos and videos, and even kept spreadsheets detailing his crimes. The real cases to compare with Amirault's are those of his mother and sister, who were convicted of the same crimes, although slightly fewer of them. Cheryl Amirault LeFave and Violet Amirault received sentences half as long and were released after serving half as many years as Gerald. Does Gerald's being a man have something to do with these disparate outcomes? Absolutely. The women benefited from the leniency still--if fitfully--bestowed by the justice system on women. Moreover, as the case against the Amiraults came to look more and more troubling with hindsight, the original scenario, in which the three were equally involved in molesting children, was replaced by a theory, never put forward during the trials, that Gerald was the ringleader and the women his dupes. How could this be? The evidence against the three was the same.

At her press conference, Governor Swift refused to discuss the case against Gerald and three times declined to respond when asked how he had failed to demonstrate good behavior in prison. The clear implication is that her motives were political: With Massachusetts in an uproar over the ongoing scandal of pedophile priests, to commute Gerald Amirault's sentence would have made her vulnerable in November when, as a not very popular or experienced Republican appointee, she faces an uphill struggle for election.

Don't forget that Mike Dukakis got skewered over his furlough of Willie Horton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton). They were all running scared.

Gerald Amirault was released in 2004.

Rob Boudrie

12-12-2009, 09:23 AM

Can you nay-sayers point to specific actions she has taken against gun ownership rights?

1. Her office continues to refuse to provide any clarification on the regulations, taking a the position that they will initiate legal action against violators, but will not answer a simple question "does gun XYZ meet thge AG safety requirements" from a dealer who is seeking to sell guns while staying within the AG regulations.

2. Her office could have rescinded the gun safety regulations as redundant once the MGL was updated to include a formal roster (later two)

3. When the EOPS held a hearing regarding the "Target gun roster", her office sent two attorneys to request that the regulations contain a statement that presence on the EOPS target roster does not mean the gun is compliant (even though the AG's regulations contain a target exemption pretty much identical to the stated requirement to get on the EOPS target roster)

M1911

12-12-2009, 09:37 AM

Can you nay-sayers point to specific actions she has taken against gun ownership rights?
She continues to support and promote the AG's "handgun consumer protection regulations." These regulations drastically reduce the number of handguns that can be sold here in MA. If you are not intimately familiar with these regulations, then you haven't been doing your homework: http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=cagoterminal&L=3&L0=Home&L1=Government&L2=AG%27s+Regulations&sid=Cago&b=terminalcontent&f=government_Regulations_940CMR16&csid=Cago

Her office continues to intimidate online retailers into not selling reloading components to MA residents.

There is a reason that Scott Brown is rated A by GOAL, and it is not because he is a Republican. GOAL has given Democrats an A rating in the past. Scott Brown has continued to support pro-gun legislation in MA, and significant political risk to himself.

If you think Coakley really believes in the 2nd Amendment, then you'd best stay up late on Xmas eve waiting for Santa Claus.

garandman

12-12-2009, 09:49 AM

1. Her office continues to refuse to provide any clarification on the regulations, taking a the position that they will initiate legal action against violators, but will not answer a simple question "does gun XYZ meet thge AG safety requirements" from a dealer who is seeking to sell guns while staying within the AG regulations.

2. Her office could have rescinded the gun safety regulations as redundant once the MGL was updated to include a formal roster (later two)

3. When the EOPS held a hearing regarding the "Target gun roster", her office sent two attorneys to request that the regulations contain a statement that presence on the EOPS target roster does not mean the gun is compliant (even though the AG's regulations contain a target exemption pretty much identical to the stated requirement to get on the EOPS target roster)Fair enough.

WILDCATT

12-12-2009, 10:25 AM

I see there are no remarks about Karen McNutt from any on this site.cat got your tongues.[smile]

M1911

12-12-2009, 11:21 AM

I see theree are no remarks about Karen McNutt from any on this site.cat got your tongues.[smile]

She's not running.

Coyote33

12-12-2009, 11:53 AM

LenS

12-12-2009, 11:03 PM

Sheesh! If only we could get the Attorney General's office to fight to protect consumers from the unfair ban on purchasing ammunition online, and to provide us with a full choice of firearms to purchase. Right now, we are hobbled in this state, and are unfairly represented as consumers.

That will all depend on who gets to sit in that office. [wink]

If it is a rabid anti like the last 3, our troubles will continue. If it is a reasonable person, we might see some positive change. This will depend on the next election cycle as the Speaker of the House or Senate President (I can't recall which) gets to hand-pick Coakley's successor if, G_d forbid, she gets the US Senate seat. So you know that the interim AG will have to be a rabid anti. [frown]

beep

05-08-2010, 08:25 AM

Does anyone know if Martha Coakley will have an opponent this year? It is my understanding that she is running unopposed.

LenS

05-08-2010, 09:06 AM

beep, your understanding is correct.

She's a "walk in" for another term.

Scrivener

05-09-2010, 03:45 PM

The impotence of the MA Republican Party is proven by the fact that it could not get a candidate to run against a politician who ran such an abysmal campaign and suffered such a crushing defeat that she became a national joke.

Scott Brown was elected by independents, with aid from the NRC. If Richard Ross is elected to fill Brown's vacancy, it will be for the same reason. The local party is almost superfluous, as its inability to challenge Coakley shows.

theGringo

05-09-2010, 04:02 PM

Scriv, it's time for you to step up to the plate. I'd vote for ya, just for the sound bites on the evening news!

dwarven1

05-09-2010, 04:29 PM

Scriv, it's time for you to step up to the plate. I'd vote for ya, just for the sound bites on the evening news!

Damn... what a GREAT idea. I'd LOVE it if Scrivener ran. Man... I'd get to vote FOR a candidate instead of AGAINST for a change!

But he's probably too intelligent to want to submit himself to the electoral process and the subsequent media anal-probing. [sad]

Scrivener

05-09-2010, 04:50 PM

But he's probably too intelligent to want to submit himself to the electoral process and the subsequent media anal-probing. [sad]

I suspect many qualified candidates are deterred by the witch hunts.

Coyote33

05-09-2010, 08:28 PM

beep

05-09-2010, 08:31 PM

beep, your understanding is correct.

She's a "walk in" for another term.

Thanks LenS. It certainly is depressing to have this confirmed.