High Power Rifle Clinic **Update 5-6-05**

[derek]

The High Power Clinic has reached its 20 person limit. Thank you for all that confirmed.


List of those in:

1. crazyneddie Confirmed
2. WildWeasel Confirmed
3. MrsWildWeasel Confirmed
4 & 5. airpw and friend Confirmed
6. Brent Confirmed
7. JonJ Confirmed
8. Greg Confirmed
9. nhsport Confirmed
10. KingCobra58 Confirmed
11. dwarven1 Confirmed
12-21. Windward Mark Interactive Confirmed

We will have a few extra AR15's for loan during the clinic. The cost will be $10 per person to pay for targets and range time. The date has been confirmed for Saturday, May 7th at 9am.

All you will need is comfortable clothing, hearing protection, a folding chair, and a bag lunch. There will be a food truck arriving at noon if you would like to buy a lunch. If the weather is good enough we will be giving the class outside on the 200 meter line. If you have any questions please contact me via IM or email.

Directions to the clinic can be found here. http://www.readingrifle.com/directions.htm

If in the event it is raining check here the morning of the Clinic, I will post the clinic status.

[crazyneddie]

Oh yeah [!]

[centermass181]

im in.

[propguy]

I would like to see whats going on. Never been but willing to poke around a bit.
Any idea where?

[derek]

I would like to see whats going on. Never been but willing to poke around a bit.
Any idea where?

It will more than likey be in Reading, MA.

[propguy]

I would like to see whats going on. Never been but willing to poke around a bit.
Any idea where?

It will more than likey be in Reading, MA.

I may try to make it but............... its quite the drive
[shock] but who knows thanks pg

[MrsWildweasel]

When are you thinking about putting this on? I would love to come.

[derek]

When are you thinking about putting this on? I would love to come.

I should hopefully have a date set this week. I'm talking with the range to "arrange" it. I'll post it as soon as I have the date. Or if I have a couple of options I will post a poll to see which date works best for everyone.

[MrsWildweasel]

Thanks, that would be great.

[Nickelsig229]

How far is Reading from Hartford?

[derek]

How far is Reading from Hartford?

It's about 50 minutes from Worcester. I think Hartford is 45 minutes from Worcester. We would love to have you come out.

[Triumph955i]

I would love to come, although i dont have my AR finished yet. I will be game for any get-togethers later this spring/summer though.

Quick question though: Is it possible for us out-of-staters to bring in no-ban "assault" weapons?!

[derek]

I would love to come, although i dont have my AR finished yet. I will be game for any get-togethers later this spring/summer though.

Quick question though: Is it possible for us out-of-staters to bring in no-ban "assault" weapons?!

The only way you can is for a match. We should have some AR15's availible for the clinic. I will let everyone know once I have the details worked. out.

[derek]

***UPDATE***. I'll be heading up to Reading on Sunday morning to meet with the HP Director to pick a date. He told me they will have extra AR15's and M14's for loan. If you have a rifle that is not MA compliant all you need to do is trigger lock it. Our Clinic will be, for legal purposes, a Match, to comply with MA law for those with non-compliant weapons.

If you have any questions please post them or IM me.

[airpw]

I'm in if the date is right. And I'm sure I can bring along one or two "lurkers"

[derek]

I'm in if the date is right. And I'm sure I can bring along one or two "lurkers"

That would be awesome if you could bring in a couple of more people.

[MrsWildweasel]

I'm in . The only time I can't is the end of april.

[crazyneddie]

NickelSig I'm 1/2 between Hartford & Reading if you want to drive up 395 I could drive the rest of the way.

[Brent]

Count me in.

[otis15]

Im in! :D

[JonJ]

Count me in as long as I can swing the date.
Thanks!

[Greg]

Looking forward to this...I'm in as long as it's held on the weekend.

[LenS]

I'd be interested too. But it will depend on my availability on the given dates.

I attended a 3-day clinic back in the late 1970s/early 1980s at Reading. We used M14s and M16s as the Army Reserve unit ran the course. Do you still have to pull butts there?

[derek]

I'd be interested too. But it will depend on my availability on the given dates.

I attended a 3-day clinic back in the late 1970s/early 1980s at Reading. We used M14s and M16s as the Army Reserve unit ran the course. Do you still have to pull butts there?

Everybody will get a turn in the butts. That's part of the fun. :D

[LenS]

No complaints. It was a unique experience. At least I could see the bullet holes from there! :D NO WAY I could see them from 600 yds when I did this 20+ years ago and these tired eyes are a lot worse now!

[TonyD]

It's been said that Derek particularly enjoys his turn in the...well, never mind.

[derek]

It's been said that Derek particularly enjoys his turn in the...well, never mind.

That's it. I'm having someone tack up your hat on the target frame. I'm going to do my 200 meter rapid demo on it. [twisted]

[TonyD]

[lol]


ETA: I don't wear 'hats'.

[derek]

[lol]


ETA: I don't wear 'hats'.

If I would have said "Cover" not everyone would have gotten it JarHeaD!

[JonJ]

Heard all kinds of stories of being in the pit, should be an experience.
What's the best rifle to bring, Garand, M14, or A2 AR?

[TonyD]

What's the best rifle to bring, Garand, M14, or A2 AR?

Yes. [wink]

[derek]

What's the best rifle to bring, Garand, M14, or A2 AR?

Yes. [wink]

Jon,

What ever you can shoot the best with is the one you should use. People can do just as well with all three types. Myself I prefer the M16/AR platform because of the pistol grip. It works best for me. I've used an m14 before and I can't shoot that as easily as a M16. It just comes down to personal preference.

Derek

[JonJ]

Thanks....I was leaning towards the AR anyway. Cheaper to shoot too! My Bushy DCM sure is heavier than my M4 at work.

[derek]

Thanks....I was leaning towards the AR anyway. Cheaper to shoot too! My Bushy DCM sure is heavier than my M4 at work.

You guys may want to get some decent ammo. Bad ammo at 200 and 300 meters will be all over the place. If we have time we will go back to the 600 yard line.

The range wont let you shoot at the 600 yard line with 55 or 62gr ammo. I recommend getting 69gr for the 200 and 77gr for the 300 and 80gr for the 600. Once I have the course scheduled I'll let everyone know if we will have time to shoot the whole course of fire.

[Nickelsig229]

NickelSig I'm 1/2 between Hartford & Reading if you want to drive up 395 I could drive the rest of the way.

Thanks for the offer. I'll most deffinitely take you up on it so long as I'm able to make that date.


I have a ton of questions regarding gear to bring, I'll wait to confirm the date before I ask them all.


Looking foward to shooting my AR's at something more then 100 yards away.

[derek]

I will have a date posted Sunday evening. Then ask away. :D

[dwarven1]

Derek,

count one more newbie in for the highpower clinic. Never fired a .223 before; I understand that they kick less than the M1. What's the fun in that? :)

Hopefully the weather will have melted all the snow by then! Then I can indulge in my other passion - Riding! Watch for a black BMW (the two-wheeled variety) to come rolling in.

Ross

[derek]

Derek,

count one more newbie in for the highpower clinic. Never fired a .223 before; I understand that they kick less than the M1. What's the fun in that? :)

Hopefully the weather will have melted all the snow by then! Then I can indulge in my other passion - Riding! Watch for a black BMW (the two-wheeled variety) to come rolling in.

Ross

Awesome Ross. Are you going to be a man and shoot an M1 for the clinic? [wink]

[dwarven1]

Never fired a .223 before; I understand that they kick less than the M1. What's the fun in that? :)

Awesome Ross. Are you going to be a man and shoot an M1 for the clinic? [wink]

I was under the impression that all that was going to be there was AR-15's - Since I've at least *fired* an M1 once, I'm a little more familiar with it than with the AR's! Hey, if it was good enough for my uncle (Korea, I think - not sure), it's good enough for me!

'Course, I wouldn't mind trying out the AR, anyway. Who knows, I might like it... then I'd have to deal with trying to buy one here in the People's Republik. :-(

Ross

[derek]

Never fired a .223 before; I understand that they kick less than the M1. What's the fun in that? :)

Awesome Ross. Are you going to be a man and shoot an M1 for the clinic? [wink]

I was under the impression that all that was going to be there was AR-15's - Since I've at least *fired* an M1 once, I'm a little more familiar with it than with the AR's! Hey, if it was good enough for my uncle (Korea, I think - not sure), it's good enough for me!

'Course, I wouldn't mind trying out the AR, anyway. Who knows, I might like it... then I'd have to deal with trying to buy one here in the People's Republik. :-(

Ross

We will have some for you. I just wasn't sure if you wanted to shoot an M1. I have two of them, I'd still shoot the AR over them. Thats just me though. :D

[Lynne]

Nevermind emailing me, Derek, I found it! :-) Given that hubby and I aren't on a reenactment, I'm interested!

[ma_coord]

This sounds like fun! So please put down another newbie! And I could probalby get one or two other women to come.

[derek]

awesome Lynne. Will do and it's great to have you aboard.

Derek

[derek]

Please check original post for new details.

[LenS]

Derek,

Put me down as well.

Depends on date chosen but I'd be interested in giving this another try, using my AR15 assuming I can make the date.

ETA: Ouch, May 7th is GOAL's Annual Meeting in Worcester, so I doubt that I'll be able to make a shoot in Reading on that day.

BTW, an excellent treatise on setting sights on an AR15 can be found (compliments of LTC Chuck Santose and the MD AR15 Shooters) at:
http://groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/improvedbattlesightzero.msnw

[Lynne]

Ah well...we've got an event that weekend. I'll be with you guys in spirit though. :)

[LenS]

Lynne, are you going to the GOAL Annual Meeting on that Saturday or are you off to a re-enactment?

[Nickelsig229]

Sunday is the only day I don't work :(

Hopefully the next meet will be on a sunday. Saturdays would only work durring the summer as it stays light out till 9pm.

[airpw]

Just checking, if I bring some friends, they don't have to have a license, correct?

[TonyD]

Just checking, if I bring some friends, they don't have to have a license, correct?

What kind of license?

[LenS]

Tony, MA requires a LTC to possess any guns/ammo anywhere in the state (with very few exceptions).

airpw, to answer your question:

- MGLs require that anyone possessing/transporting firearms of any sort/ammo must have a MA LTC (FID for low-capacity rifles/shotguns only) with the following exceptions noted in the law:

* attending a match (with paperwork specifying the match, etc. in possession) or a gun show,
* LEO from anywhere in the USA (there seem to be some restrictions here too, but not likely to be a problem in practical terms),
* with someone in possession of a LTC who becomes "in charge"of the firearms while the unlicensed person is in MA and using or around the guns/ammo.

NOTE: Plinking or "just getting together to shoot" means you can't transport any firearms/ammo into MA nor can you be left alone with them.

[TonyD]

Len - what kind of paperwork is needed for me coming up there to help Derek teach the clinic? Apparently, it is considered a match.

[derek]

Len - what kind of paperwork is needed for me coming up there to help Derek teach the clinic? Apparently, it is considered a match.

You'll be with me in my car so it won't matter. I have a MA LTC. I'll be in possesion of your rifle as soon as you get off the plane.

[TonyD]

Len - what kind of paperwork is needed for me coming up there to help Derek teach the clinic? Apparently, it is considered a match.

You'll be with me in my car so it won't matter. I have a MA LTC. I'll be in possesion of your rifle as soon as you get off the plane.

Roger that.

[airpw]

Just checking, if I bring some friends, they don't have to have a license, correct?

What kind of license?

Two of my friends have LTC but one does not. He is interested and wants to take part in the clinic/match. I assume he can join the match without a FID or LTC as if I was taking him shooting at the local club.

[LenS]

airpw,

Correct, anyone can shoot with/without a MA license. However, someone must be "responsible" for the unlicensed shooter . . . meaning that a MA LTC holder must be present where the guns/ammo are and the unlicensed person can't be left alone with the guns/ammo at any time.

If the event is a "match" and the shooter has paperwork to prove it, the above does not apply and they can bring their own guns, shoot unsupervised, etc. as if they had a MA LTC.

[Lynne]

Lynne, are you going to the GOAL Annual Meeting on that Saturday or are you off to a re-enactment?
Better late than never.... :D We have a reenactment that weekend, so no, I won't be going to the banquet Len.

[derek]

The original Post on the Clinic has been updated please take a look.

[TonyD]

Hey, everyone. I just wanted add a few things to the update. Derek and I have worked pretty hard to put this together and to write a course outline we felt would be the best for this class. This clinic will be mainly on the M16 / AR15 type service rifle and the classroom portion will cover such topics as:

Saftey
Nomenclature / Operation
Elements of accuarcy
Using a sling
Shooting positions

The afternoon will be spent getting your zero and shooting a practice match using everthing discussed in the morning. I suggest you bring about 100 rounds of good ammo at least 68 grains.

I also suggest you bring a shooting jacket if you have one, or a heavy long sleeve shirt or field jacket. You'll also need a glove for your weak (non-shooting) hand and you may want to bring a bottle of water or something to drink. I'm not sure what's available at the range.

We've also been assured by the CMP that our clinic is approved to meet the requirements for participants to purchase a M1 Garand through CMP sales.

I'm traveling 1,000 miles for this clinic so I hope all you local guys that expressed interest show up. If you have any questions, contact Derek or me.

Semper Fi!

[MrsWildweasel]

We are definately planning on showing up,and with any luck if things change with the boy we can drag him with us too.

[TonyD]

We are definately planning on showing up,and with any luck if things change with the boy we can drag him with us too.

It'll be good to meet all you folks.

[MrsWildweasel]

It'll be nice to put faces with names. :D

[TonyD]

It'll be nice to put faces with names. :D

You might change your mind about that after we meet. [lol]

[MrsWildweasel]

I doubt it. [twisted]

[derek]

The clinic is now full. If you having any questions from now until May 7th please post here or IM me.

Thank you
Derek

[TonyD]

Or, you can IM me. [wink]

This is going to be a great clinic for folks who really want to learn how much they can get out of an AR. Less than two weeks and I'll see you all there.

[TonyD]

Hey, folks!

I think I sent an IM to everyone who is bringing a rifle to the clinic but I also wanted to post it here.

If anyone doesn't already know, the type of shooting we will be doing requires the use of a sling that is capable of making a loop at the bottom and is easily adjustable at the top. We will be covering the use of the sling during the clinic but you'll need one to shoot with in the afternoon.

Most shooters use a leather National Match sling but you can also use a cotton M1 web loop sling.

Let me, or Derek, know if you have any questions.

See you there!

Semper Fi!

[Greg]

This sucks...

I went to 4 Seasons to get some Black Hills 68 grain(sale on it per FS email) for the upcoming class...Sold Out! Carl ordered 1000rds from his supplier while I was standing there,though it doesn't do me any good since I work until 8PM and Woburn is a nice little haul from Worcester. I did buy a brick of XM193 ($104.00 with tax) so it wasn't a total loss :)

Anybody know of a source/store that sells this ammo ? Hell,I'll even go to the Gunroom in Shrewsbury if I have too.I seriously doubt they will have match grade stuff though.

Help....

[TonyD]

This sucks...

I went to 4 Seasons to get some Black Hills 68 grain(sale on it per FS email) for the upcoming class...Sold Out! Carl ordered 1000rds from his supplier while I was standing there,though it doesn't do me any good since I work until 8PM and Woburn is a nice little haul from Worcester. I did buy a brick of XM193 ($104.00 with tax) so it wasn't a total loss :)

Anybody know of a source/store that sells this ammo ? Hell,I'll even go to the Gunroom in Shrewsbury if I have too.I seriously doubt they will have match grade stuff though.

Help....

Greg - I'm not sure the price difference but Federal Gold Medal Match is great also. Good luck and I'll see you there.

P.S. I think Derek bought him out of BH's.

[Greg]

$15.99 (I think) for 20 rounds of Federal ,compared to $24.99 for 50 rounds of BH (was the 77 grain,so 68 might be even cheaper)

[TonyD]

$15.99 (I think) for 20 rounds of Federal ,compared to $24.99 for 50 rounds of BH (was the 77 grain,so 68 might be even cheaper)

I knew it was more but wasn't sure how much. Although, the Federal is new and not reloads like the BH's blue box. Derek was saying the 69 gr BH's was $26.

[TonyD]

Greg - Another thought. Hornady makes a 68 and a 75 gr match that is very good also. Might check to see if they have that. I think Brent was getting some 75's from somewhere.

[Greg]

Supposedly (who am I to argue,I don't know a thing about comp shooting) the 68grain is good for my 1/9 twist.It has the ratings on the box .Thats all the match grade FS had was those 2 brands.

Almost $100.00 for 100 rounds of Federal is a little steep for me at the present time.Actually any time..LOL If I competed I'm sure it would make fiscal sense,but right now I am only in the "learning" stage.

[TonyD]

Supposedly (who am I to argue,I don't know a thing about comp shooting) the 68grain is good for my 1/9 twist.It has the ratings on the box .Thats all the match grade FS had was those 2 brands.

Almost $100.00 for 100 rounds of Federal is a little steep for me at the present time.Actually any time..LOL If I competed I'm sure it would make fiscal sense,but right now I am only in the "learning" stage.

I agree, it is steep. I was under the impression FS had the 68 gr Hornady. They're usually a little cheaper than BH's. You're 1:9 should stablize 68 gr Hornady or 69 gr (Sierra) BH's just fine. It would probably do okay with the 75 gr Hornady, as well. I think there will some ammo available at the clinic but I'm not sure what and how much.

[derek]

John Dunn is bringing a 1000 rounds to the clinic.

[Greg]

John Dunn is bringing a 1000 rounds to the clinic.

Is he willing to sell me 100 rounds ? I can't get back to FS before the clinic,so I am screwed, unless Dicks sporting goods sells the stuff.

[TonyD]

John Dunn is bringing a 1000 rounds to the clinic.

Is he willing to sell me 100 rounds ? I can't get back to FS before the clinic,so I am screwed, unless Dicks sporting goods sells the stuff.

I'm sure you'll have access to the ammo. That's why he's bringing it. I just wasn't sure how much was going to be available is why I recommended everyone try to bring some. You'll be good to go.

[Greg]

I hate not being properly prepared...

[TonyD]

I hate not being properly prepared...

It'll be fine, trust me. Just try to make sure you have a proper sling if you're bringing a rifle.

[derek]

The 1000 rounds is for people who can't get ammo. You're all set Greg.

[JonJ]

I had Archer Arms order me some BH 69g. He ordered 3 boxes and I'm taking 2. He quoted me $28 per box of 50. If someone needs the 3rd box, let me know and I'll pick it up for you.
Jon

[derek]

I will post a message at around 6:30 am on Saturday to let everyone know if the clinic has been cancelled due to rain. Please before you head out check here to make sure it hasn't been cancelled. The forecast says rain on Saturday.

[TonyD]

D - since everyone has already made arrangements to be there, why can't we at least do the classroom portion regardless of weather.

[derek]

D - since everyone has already made arrangements to be there, why can't we at least do the classroom portion regardless of weather.

The director of the range doesnt want to do it in the rain, there isn't enough room in the club house for 20, and there is way too much foot traffic from other members. Sitting in the rain for 2 or 3 hours isn't very fun either. I'd rather re-schedule at a later date and have the class and shooting all in one day, rather than have people make two trips.

[LenS]

D - since everyone has already made arrangements to be there, why can't we at least do the classroom portion regardless of weather.

The director of the range doesnt want to do it in the rain, there isn't enough room in the club house for 20, and there is way too much foot traffic from other members. Sitting in the rain for 2 or 3 hours isn't very fun either. I'd rather re-schedule at a later date and have the class and shooting all in one day, rather than have people make two trips.

Except for poor Tony, who is flying up special for the event!

[derek]

He will be fine. If we can't shoot Saturday we can still DRINK!!!!!!!

[TonyD]

He will be fine. If we can't shoot Saturday we can still DRINK!!!!!!!

Damn skippy!

[derek]

I spoke with John Dunn at lunch, and in the even it rains we are still going to do the class portion in the Club house for the first couple of hours. Hopefully the rain will have stopped by lunch and we can proceed with the shootng outside.

[JonJ]

I'm seeing from NOAA "Saturday: Mostly sunny and breezy, with a high near 63."
Fingers crossed!

[derek]

I think we will be good to go. Just bring rain gear, if it rains it will be passing showers.

[Wildweasel]

Derek as you have the 20 and my son wants to shoot, (And could use the range time with the pending deployment) I will give up my seat for him on the range. I can be an extra range coach.
Glenn

[TonyD]

Derek as you have the 20 and my son wants to shoot, (And could use the range time with the pending deployment) I will give up my seat for him on the range. I can be an extra range coach.
Glenn

Just bring him, it'll be fine.

[derek]

We'll squeeze him in, and I would like you to be able to shoot as well. We will work it out.

[Wildweasel]

Thanks guys. :D

[TonyD]

Thanks guys. :D

No prob. We'll (Derek and I) do everything we can for our current defenders of freedom.

[Lynne]

Thanks guys. :D

No prob. We'll (Derek and I) do everything we can for our current defenders of freedom.

<sniff> I just love you guys. :D If I'm able to come, I'll be the cheering section. Should I bring my pom poms? [lol]

[Greg]

Looks like the weather will not be our friend this Saturday.Any back up plans in the making ?

[derek]

Looks like the weather will not be our friend this Saturday.Any back up plans in the making ?

If it is raining in the morning we will do the class protion in the club house. Hopefully after lunch the rain will have stopped. As long as it isn't a down pour we will still shoot.

So if you have rain gear make sure you pack it.

[ZainAnak]

Everything I've been seeing points to, at most, light showers.

So suck it up soldiers!!!! It's lock and load time! [twisted]

[derek]

The forecast has taken a turn for the worse. 46 and soild rain for Saturday. As of right now there is a good chance the clinic will be postponed to a later date.

Please check here Saturday morning for the clinic status before heading to Reading, MA. John, Tony, and myself will make the decision at around 6:30 am.

[JonJ]

Kinda had a feeling when I saw this morning that they're calling for gale force winds on the coast. Dang it. I'm going to pull my vacation day so it's not wasted if postponed. I can always call early in the AM and request an emerg vac day.
Jon

[derek]

Kinda had a feeling when I saw this morning that they're calling for gale force winds on the coast. Dang it. I'm going to pull my vacation day so it's not wasted if postponed. I can always call early in the AM and request an emerg vac day.
Jon

Sounds like a plan.

[Greg]

I am get sick of this friggin weather.All week it is sunny,then the weekend comes,and it friggin rains! Past 3 weeks,same pattern! I am getting sick of it.

[derek]

I am get sick of this friggin weather.All week it is sunny,then the weekend comes,and it friggin rains! Past 3 weeks,same pattern! I am getting sick of it.

You and me both. It's getting quite old. Nothing is worse than working all day and seeing how nice it is outside not being able to wait for the weekend, then it's cold and rainy all weekend.

[TonyD]

Well, folks, I'll be up there in few hours so at least there will be a little ray of sunshine. [wink]

[ZainAnak]

For those of us dead-set on shooting on Saturday- would any of you guys (TonyD, Derek?) consider going somewhere more northernly? Not for a formal clinic, but at least to show me and some guys how to get a few rounds off. I, for one, would be more than willing to pay whatever costs would be associated.

[Lynne]

Well, folks, I'll be up there in few hours so at least there will be a little ray of sunshine. [wink]

Nuthin better than some Southern sun. :D

[derek]

ZainAnak IM sent.

[Greg]

Where you guys thinking of going ?

[ZainAnak]

So far nothing comes to mind. If you have any ideas.........

[derek]

Due to the pending Inclement weather the High Power Rifle Clinic has been postponed to a later date.

When I have a new date cleared I will re-post it here.

Tomorrow the temp will be in the 40's with up 1 and 1/2" of rain, winds in the mid 20's and windchills in the 30's.

[MrsWildweasel]

I was having flash backs to basic training, and having to qualify in weather like that. :)

[dwarven1]

Wahhhh... I'm relieved and disappointed. Relieved because it's not fun to shoot in rain (I'm not even sure I could SEE a target 600 yards away in the rain!! Especially with wet glasses. ) and disappointed because I won't get to meet y'all for a while now.

Oh well... Riverside Gun Club has an indoor range, and I still need to put some rounds through the new (used) P12 to see if it's reliable enough to carry. Think I'll spend some quality time with Mr ParaOrdnance tomorrow instead.

Ross

[ZainAnak]

Yeah, we do defense contracting, and were planning on going as a company event tomorrow. There's 10 of us mightily eager to shoot high power this weekend. Does *anyone* have any other ideas? Sunday is an option too!

[dwarven1]

There's 10 of us mightily eager to shoot high power this weekend. Does *anyone* have any other ideas?

Well... the 100 yard range at Riverside has a covered shooting line, but it's only 100 yards - you just have to use smaller targets! :-) However, i can only take two guests... we'd have to find some more members to host 10 guests!

Ross

[crazyneddie]

Oh well. It will definately be more fun in the dry. [roll] If it's ever dry on a Saturday again!

[airpw]

Big disappointment. No shooting and no golfing.....this weekend rain has got to stop. Think I will head up to FourSeasons and help Ger spend his money.

Ger, I'll call you later.

[ZainAnak]

Well, I know it's barely Sunday after the depressing-for-everyone crappy Saturday, but I was wondering if we should start planning the reschedule?

Any thoughts Derek?

[LenS]

Well, it wasn't Reading and it wasn't 600 yds, but our two Marines and a couple of civilians met at Braintree R&P this AM. I could only hang around for ~1 hour as I was headed off to the GOAL Annual Meeting and Banquet, however according to Derek, they spent the day there, first shooting rifle at 50 yds and then shooting pistol. Here are some pictures I took of our fearless Admin and Mods shooting rifle. Very rainy, pools of water down by the targets, wind whistling thru with gusts 30-40mph, but they shot from under cover. Pictures aren't great, taken with a cell phone camera.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/283308.jpg


http://www.hunt101.com/img/283311.jpg

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[TonyD]

Len - It was great to meet you and I hope your GOAL meeting went well. I wish we could have spent more time together. We spent about 4 hours out in that nasty stuff but it was great practice.

To everyone else, it really sucked that things went the way they did. I was really looking forward to meeting everyone and having a nice class and range session. I doubt that I'll get back up for the class when it goes off but Derek will put on a good one.

Fart's, if you read this, your NASCAR - fu is weak! Hope you got your tire fixed.

D - tell Mel again how much I appreciated all the hospitality. If not before, see you at Perry and both of you in Sept.

Semper Fi!

[LenS]

Tony, it was a real pleasure meeting you and I also regret that we couldn't have more time to spend together. I certainly hope there will be some other times together.

The GOAL meeting was good, not spectacular. New location wasn't bad, just small (compared to the Best Western-Marlboro). Poor turnout for Annual Meeting (28 attendees), but probably 400+ for the banquet and short speech by Miss Massachusetts. Very tasteful tribute to our Armed Services started the Banquet with very nice movie and slide presentations.

I guess that I'll post the rest of info on GOAL meeting in a separate thread in some appropriate forum, so as not to hijack this thread.

[LenS]

Derek, did you give John Peyton info on joining us here?

[derek]

I'm glad you enjoyed your stay with us. It was a great time. I made an attempt to finish off the rest of the Becks last night, no dice. Melody woke me up on the couch at around 10:30pm.

I think the weekend of Drinking, late nights, early mornings, and cold/wet days on the ranges took it's toll on me.

[derek]

Derek, did you give John Peyton info on joining us here?

I forgot to. I'll see him at the Presidents match this weekend. I will let him know then. Hopefully he will sign up. We could use his vast firearms knowledge.

[TonyD]

I'm glad you enjoyed your stay with us. It was a great time. I made an attempt to finish off the rest of the Becks last night, no dice. Melody woke me up on the couch at around 10:30pm.

I think the weekend of Drinking, late nights, early mornings, and cold/wet days on the ranges took it's toll on me.

It certainly kicked my ass. Those four hours in the rain and cold Saturday did me in. But, it was worth it.

That was a lot of Beck's to try to finish.

[MrsWildweasel]

We were wondering what you guys were getting for weather. We had sprinkles off and on,no downpours,but around noon the wind kicked up and the temp dropped drastically.

[TonyD]

BTW - Even though I thoroughly enjoyed myself over the weekend, it was really nice to take my morning coffee on the lanai in a pair of shorts and a golf shirt this morning.

[Wildweasel]

Well It is supposed to hit 70 today. 75 tomorrow. Good old new England. [shock]

[derek]

We were wondering what you guys were getting for weather. We had sprinkles off and on,no downpours,but around noon the wind kicked up and the temp dropped drastically.

I tell you what. Saturday was no joke. I've only once shot in worse weather once and that was at 5000 feet in Nevada. The weather Saturday was in the low 40's, winds well in the 30's, and solid rain. I froze my rear end off, unfortuneately I didn't freeze off enough of it.

[TonyD]

It was horrid. With only a sweatshirt and shooting jacket I was very uncomfortable. My feet absolutely froze in my jungle boots. However, Derek and I were able to really work on a few things and I was able to really tighten up my 200 yard standing. We were shooting 10 shot strings at 50 yards on reduced targets. Also, Derek got Brent on a rifle for the first time and I was really impressed with what he turned out. Good job, Brent.

[MrsWildweasel]

Sounds like you guys still had fun despite the weather. Sounds a bit like what I qualified in , in the Army minus the amount of wind.

[LenS]

That whole situation reminded me of the time we were supposed to qualify with the PD and the weather was similar (but much less wind) . . .

I called my Sgt and asked "are we still going to qualify in this miserable weather?". His response was that "if we ever have to use the firearm to defend ourselves/others, we don't get to pick the weather!"

After that I understood, and as Tony and Derek stated, when the National Matches are held, the event goes on regardless of the weather! Braintree is a pretty good place to shoot even in miserable weather, since the back is all latticed and there is a huge roof over the shooting pavilions, the walls on the sides of the ranges and the baffles offer excellent protection to the shooter.

The cold was biting! I was wearing a short-sleeved T-shirt under a jacket, no gloves and that cold wind was anything but pleasant.

[Lynne]

I'm bummin that I didn't get a chance to meet you guys. As it turned out, I wouldn't have been able to make the shoot anyway....

Looks like we'll have to invade GA to see Tony. :D

[TonyD]

I'm bummin that I didn't get a chance to meet you guys. As it turned out, I wouldn't have been able to make the shoot anyway....

Looks like we'll have to invade GA to see Tony. :D

The weather is much nicer, trust me.

[LenS]

Tony,

It won't take much to have nicer weather than this past weekend!

No, it is not usually this bad in May! But nothing about the weather in the US/World seems to have been "usual" lately!

[TonyD]

Tony,

It won't take much to have nicer weather than this past weekend!

No, it is not usually this bad in May! But nothing about the weather in the US/World seems to have been "usual" lately!

This is true. Just my typical luck to be up during a few bad days.

[ZainAnak]

So to bring y'all around to the most *important* topic at hand here- when are we gonna reschedule this here shoot?? I know some people mighty anxious to try out highpower......... [wink]

[derek]

So to bring y'all around to the most *important* topic at hand here- when are we gonna reschedule this here shoot?? I know some people mighty anxious to try out highpower......... [wink]

I'll be meeting with John this weekend to discuss a new date. When I find out I will post the details here. Due to the schedule at Reading, it may be towards the end of the summer. :(

[Greg]

If I supply the ammo,lunch,range and transportation can I get one on one training ? Harvard doesn't have a 600 yd range is the only problem. I don't think I can even see that far anyways :)

[JonJ]

Harvard doesn't have a 600 yd range is the only problem. I don't think I can even see that far anyways :)
Could always go with reduced targets.