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GLOCK.Perfection
02-07-2008, 05:56 PM
....at least by the University of Connecticut police....
In class today we had a Q&A with the Uconn Police. I asked the question that many have debated on here (after class of course to avoid scaring any libtards). I asked the officer if carrying on campus is illegal, or just against school policy. In the dancing around the question like they often like to do, I finally did get a rather direct answer. It is NOT against the law, it is against school policy. I will note that when asking the question i proposed "if i have my out of state license to carry...." to which he replied you need to be a resident to get a pistol license [rolleyes]. I let that one go and moved on to avoid arguing about it.
So there it is in a nut shell. Could he be wrong? Very possible, but according to this uconn officer, carrying on campus is strictly against school policy, but not illegal. Furthermore, i was told that if you are carrying, say driving through campus you are good to go. As long as you are not in buildings.
Again Im not taking this is fact, but it is directly from a Uconn police officer.
M1911
02-07-2008, 06:02 PM
Again Im not taking this is fact, but it is directly from a Uconn police officer.
I'm not familiar with CT laws. I am, however, familiar with advice from various MA police officers on MA laws. Quite often the advice given was completely wrong. I suggest that you contact a competent CT attorney familiar with CT firearms laws. I wouldn't bet my freedom on the word of a police officer. Is there a state firearms association in CT?
Lugnut
02-07-2008, 07:22 PM
Well... in MA, you can carry if you get permission correct? So there has to be some provisions in the law.
vcsniper556
02-07-2008, 07:51 PM
arent the buildings at school consitered state buildings, and you cant bring a gun into a state building?
WayneWong
02-08-2008, 08:19 PM
Even if it were legal, if it's against school policy you risk getting expelled. And if you get expelled for that reason you would have a hell of a time getting into another college.
Granted, concealed is concealed, and nowadays being on a college campus is like walking through a firing range. But when you spend so much time in close quarters with other people, you are bound to get made and reported on by some ultra lib anti asswipe.
M1911
02-08-2008, 08:47 PM
Well... in MA, you can carry if you get permission correct?
True, but that's just so not gonna happen...
Rob Boudrie
02-08-2008, 08:49 PM
True, but that's just so not gonna happen...
It will if you're the president of the university and write yourself a letter of authorization. Yes, this has happened in MA.
Even if it were legal, if it's against school policy you risk getting expelled.
Kind of tough to expell non-students who have lawful business on campus :).
M1911
02-08-2008, 08:53 PM
It will if you're the president of the university and write yourself a letter of authorization. Yes, this has happened in MA.
I'm sure. For the rest of us mere mortal University staff, however...
Altezza
11-22-2008, 03:58 PM
Don't forget that if you get caught, you face a real problem of having your pistol permit revoked and losing your carry gun. This is the penalty for having your gun exposed (i.e. "got made"; that's how they found out) and it causes another person "alarm". [rolleyes]
Don't forget that if you get caught, you face a real problem of having your pistol permit revoked and losing your carry gun. This is the penalty for having your gun exposed (i.e. "got made"; that's how they found out) and it causes another person "alarm". [rolleyes]
IMHO, that risk is better than the risk of getting lined up against a classroom wall and shot in the back of the head by a nutjob who'll kill himself when campus police arrive with their AR-15's.
You'd be astonished how easy it is to conceal carry with Thunderwear.
YMMV.
Altezza
11-29-2008, 02:09 PM
IMHO, that risk is better than the risk of getting lined up against a classroom wall and shot in the back of the head by a nutjob who'll kill himself when campus police arrive with their AR-15's.
You'd be astonished how easy it is to conceal carry with Thunderwear.
YMMV.
Oh, I agree. As for Thunderwear, I have the Smartcarry version, but it's pretty damned uncomfortable for me when sitting for long periods. Even with a small pistol like my PM9.
Oh, I agree. As for Thunderwear, I have the Smartcarry version, but it's pretty damned uncomfortable for me when sitting for long periods. Even with a small pistol like my PM9.
[grin] Stay safe out there.
robmcd
12-11-2008, 11:04 AM
It would seem that Chapter 952, Sec. 53a-217b (http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/Chap952.htm#Sec53a-217b.htm)only regulates elementary and secondary schools, and then there's 18 U.S.C. Sec. 922(q) which would seem to allow it for lawfully licensed individuals who have prior approval. A very gray area. I'd suggest that you send a registered letter to the Firearms Licensing Unit of the DPS and pose the question.
P.S. Here's a link to the ATF's Gun Free School Zone (http://www.atf.gov/pub/gen_pub/gun_free_school_zone_notice.pdf)notice. It would seem that Federal law allows for school policy to regulate the issue.
buketduder
03-20-2009, 04:43 PM
It is not against the law to carry a handgun, with a CT permit, onto a college campus..even into a building. Now if you are student it maybe against school rules and you may get thrown out..NO STATE STATUTE defines it as illegal so that makes it LEGAL...and if anyone tells you cannot carry on state property they are full of crap..no statute says that either...
It is not against the law to carry a handgun, with a CT permit, onto a college campus..even into a building. Now if you are student it maybe against school rules and you may get thrown out..NO STATE STATUTE defines it as illegal so that makes it LEGAL...and if anyone tells you cannot carry on state property they are full of crap..no statute says that either...
Actually, if you're a student and it's against school rules, it looks like it could be a felony, as I just recently found out.
Dredging up an old thread, but the statement above appears to be incorrect. See this link:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/rpt/2005-R-0489.htm
This is a 2005 analysis by the Office of Legislative Research, but the relevant law has not
changed since 2005.
> CARRYING GUNS ON THE JOB By: Veronica Rose, Principal Analyst
>
> You want to know if an employer may prohibit an employee with a gun permit from carrying
> his handgun on the job.
>
> Yes. By law, a person who holds a handgun permit does not have the right to carry handguns
> on any property where handguns are otherwise prohibited by law or by the person who owns
> or exercises control over the property (CGS § 29-28(e)).
Link to CGS § 29-28(e): http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/pub/Chap529.htm#Sec29-28.htm
The text of CGS § 29-28(e) tracks the answer appearing above.
Note that a violation of CGS § 29-28(e) appears to be more than simple "trespassing" -- it appears to be "against the law." The penalty for carrying where possession or carrying has been "prohibited by the person who owns or exercises control over such premises" in violation of CGS § 29-28(e) appears in CGS § 29-37: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/pub/Chap529.htm#Sec29-37.htm
> Sec. 29-37. Penalties. (a) Any person violating any provision of
> section 29-28 or 29-31 shall be fined not more than five
> hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than three years or both, and
> any pistol or revolver found in the possession of any
> person in violation of any of said provisions shall be forfeited.
Connecticut law allows CCW in your home and at your work, but only if you own the business. That's when you are "the person who owns or exercises control over such premises."
buketduder
03-23-2009, 04:25 PM
Ok, i hear that...does CT law define how you would know if weapons are not allowed...a certain size sign??...cause i have never seen one in CT...the casino's have a a no firearms sign but if you were not looking..you could easily miss it
Ok, i hear that...does CT law define how you would know if weapons are not allowed...a certain size sign??...cause i have never seen one in CT...the casino's have a a no firearms sign but if you were not looking..you could easily miss it
Be careful, casinos may be on tribal land and covered by their own law (so CT law wouldn't apply if it was, but I'm not a casino guru).
But no, there's nothing in the law that says anything about signage. If it's a school or an employer that makes you sign a "no guns" policy, that'd be pretty clear cut IMO, but I'm not expert on this. There's not as much collective CT gun law knowledge here on NES as there is info WRT Mass. laws, so we don't have a lot to work with.
GLOCK.Perfection
03-23-2009, 04:49 PM
Be careful, casinos may be on tribal land and covered by their own law (so CT law wouldn't apply if it was, but I'm not a casino guru).
But no, there's nothing in the law that says anything about signage. If it's a school or an employer that makes you sign a "no guns" policy, that'd be pretty clear cut IMO, but I'm not expert on this. There's not as much collective CT gun law knowledge here on NES as there is info WRT Mass. laws, so we don't have a lot to work with.
that, and the applicable section is extremely over broad.
that, and the applicable section is extremely over broad.
Agreed.
M1911
03-31-2009, 04:01 PM
Be careful, casinos may be on tribal land and covered by their own law (so CT law wouldn't apply if it was, but I'm not a casino guru).
Yup, the CT casinos are on "sovereign" territory [rolleyes]. You are subject to tribal law and are basically completely screwed. The "house" always wins, and that includes at the tribal courts.
yeibitchai12
04-01-2009, 01:25 PM
I'd suggest that you send a registered letter to the Firearms Licensing Unit of the DPS and pose the question.
Fuggetaboutit... They'll either dance around the question or you won't get jack shit. [rolleyes]
yeibitchai12
04-01-2009, 01:26 PM
It is not against the law to carry a handgun, with a CT permit, onto a college campus..even into a building. Now if you are student it maybe against school rules and you may get thrown out..NO STATE STATUTE defines it as illegal so that makes it LEGAL...and if anyone tells you cannot carry on state property they are full of crap..no statute says that either...
Um, yeah, right... There is also NO STATE STATUE saying we can't open carry in CT, but I dare someone to try it. See how long they last. [rolleyes]
Dmac82
04-13-2009, 10:36 AM
Does anyone have access to uconn's student handbook? Can they verifi if it explicetly says NO guns??
GLOCK.Perfection
04-13-2009, 05:16 PM
Does anyone have access to uconn's student handbook? Can they verifi if it explicetly says NO guns??
Weapons on Campus
Possession and/or use of firearms, fireworks, dangerous weapons and hazardous chemicals is strictly prohibited and in many cases violates state law. This applies to students and employees, except those who have official authorization for such use. (See General Rules of Conduct for Employees as published by Labor Relations in Storrs.)
http://warren.law.uconn.edu/students/handbook/appendixe.html
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